04-03-2009, 11:40 AM
Thank you Q. I have been considering how best to proceed on this thread. At first I thought avoiding LOO quotes would be beneficial so as to allow everyone to share their unique perspectives on the archetypes. Unfortunately, we seem to have a dearth of participants, and I also want to avoid detailed discussions as to the nuances of each statement, so that we can move at a steady pace.
In trying to understand the relationships and interactions of the cards of the Major Arcana, there are a few things that I have gleaned from Ra.
1. Most, though not all archetypes have gender characteristics that are associated with either male (physical, creating, active, reasoning, reaching, outer, doing) or female (mental, nurturing, passive, intuitive, withdrawn, inner, being). These broad characteristics are reflected by the characters chosen to represent the archetypes. I am interested in exploring and understanding the gender of each at this time.
2. There is a well defined and highly choreographed dance that occurs between the archetypes as each and every occurrence is transformed into its associated experience of the mind/body/spirit which is reflected in the associated matrix of each. I'm interested in elucidating some of this dance so that we may understand the main roles of each archetype before we delve more deeply into their details.
3. Although there are many subjective and personal aspects to be observed and studied in each of the archetypes, there are also a set of more firm basic truths. I am interested in identifying as many of these truths as possible, with the understanding that we are not Ra, and will most certainly exhibit our human fallibility. But I hope that, through discussion, we may achieve a consensus of opinion on these points.
With that in mind now, let's explore some more Ra's comments on the origin of the Archetypes.
First, we see that the concepts of the Archetypes were harvested from a previous Octave, from which some, but not all of the archetypes existed. {On a separate note, I find it fascinating that the One Creator is clearly learning about how to structure creation so as to maximize the efficiency of experience he gains therefrom.} Notably the Experience, Significator, Matrix and Potentiator are discussed. Note how Ra discussed the Matrix and Potentiator as two aspects used to balance all catalysts.
More broadly now, we see a relationship between the potentiator and matrix of each portion of the mind/body/spirit complex.
So we see that Ra indicates that the Matrix of the Mind represents consciousness which is potentiated by the subconscious. The Matrix is considered first because the very existence of the entire density is founded on the consciousness. I think that this points to the true magic of the Magician. The magic of creation itself. The on-going existence and support for the 3D illusion is the magical work of the conscious mind.
I also think that it's important to note that although the significator of the mind carries with it all the distilled experiences from prior incarnations, at birth the matrix of the mind and body are pristine, and actions by them are biased out of free will unless acted upon by their respective potentiator. Finally let's see what Ra says about the gender aspects associated with these four archetypes.
Thus begins the dance between mind and body, matrix and potentiator.
3D Sunset
In trying to understand the relationships and interactions of the cards of the Major Arcana, there are a few things that I have gleaned from Ra.
1. Most, though not all archetypes have gender characteristics that are associated with either male (physical, creating, active, reasoning, reaching, outer, doing) or female (mental, nurturing, passive, intuitive, withdrawn, inner, being). These broad characteristics are reflected by the characters chosen to represent the archetypes. I am interested in exploring and understanding the gender of each at this time.
2. There is a well defined and highly choreographed dance that occurs between the archetypes as each and every occurrence is transformed into its associated experience of the mind/body/spirit which is reflected in the associated matrix of each. I'm interested in elucidating some of this dance so that we may understand the main roles of each archetype before we delve more deeply into their details.
3. Although there are many subjective and personal aspects to be observed and studied in each of the archetypes, there are also a set of more firm basic truths. I am interested in identifying as many of these truths as possible, with the understanding that we are not Ra, and will most certainly exhibit our human fallibility. But I hope that, through discussion, we may achieve a consensus of opinion on these points.
With that in mind now, let's explore some more Ra's comments on the origin of the Archetypes.
First, we see that the concepts of the Archetypes were harvested from a previous Octave, from which some, but not all of the archetypes existed. {On a separate note, I find it fascinating that the One Creator is clearly learning about how to structure creation so as to maximize the efficiency of experience he gains therefrom.} Notably the Experience, Significator, Matrix and Potentiator are discussed. Note how Ra discussed the Matrix and Potentiator as two aspects used to balance all catalysts.
Ra Book IV, Session 78 Wrote:Questioner: I realize that we are on very difficult ground, you might say, for precise terminology. It is totally displaced from our system of coordinates for evaluation in our present system of language.
These early Logoi that formed in the center of the galaxy wished, I assume, to create a system of experience for the one Creator. Did they then start with no previous experience or information about how to do this? This is difficult to ask.
Ra: I am Ra. At the beginning of this creation or, as you may call it, octave there were those things known which were the harvest of the preceding octave. About the preceding creation, we know as little as we do of the octave to come. However, we are aware of those pieces of gathered concept which were the tools which the Creator had in the knowing of the self.
These tools were of three kinds. Firstly, there was an awareness of the efficiency for experience of mind, body, and spirit. Secondly, there was an awareness of the most efficacious nature or, if you will, significator of mind, body, and spirit. Thirdly, there was the awareness of two aspects of mind, of body, and of spirit that the significator could use to balance all catalyst. You may call these two the matrix and the potentiator.
More broadly now, we see a relationship between the potentiator and matrix of each portion of the mind/body/spirit complex.
Ra Book IV, Session 78 Wrote:Questioner: Could you elaborate please on the nature and quality of the matrix and the potentiator?
Ra: I am Ra. In the mind complex the matrix may be described as consciousness. It has been called the Magician. It is to be noted that of itself consciousness is unmoved. The potentiator of consciousness is the unconscious. This encompasses a vast realm of potential in the mind.
In the body the matrix may be seen as Balanced Working or Even Functioning. Note that here the matrix is always active with no means of being inactive. The potentiator of the body complex, then, may be called Wisdom for it is only through judgment that the unceasing activities and proclivities of the body complex may be experienced in useful modes.
The Matrix of the Spirit is what you may call the Night of the Soul or Primeval Darkness. Again we have that which is not capable of movement or work. The potential power of this extremely receptive matrix is such that the potentiator may be seen as Lightning. In your archetypical system called the tarot this has been refined into the concept complex of the Lightning Struck Tower. However, the original potentiator was light in its sudden and fiery form; that is, the lightning itself.
So we see that Ra indicates that the Matrix of the Mind represents consciousness which is potentiated by the subconscious. The Matrix is considered first because the very existence of the entire density is founded on the consciousness. I think that this points to the true magic of the Magician. The magic of creation itself. The on-going existence and support for the 3D illusion is the magical work of the conscious mind.
Ra, Book IV, Session 78 Wrote:Questioner:...You have spoken of the Magician as a basic archetype and that this seems to have been carried through from the previous octave. Would this be in order—if there is an order—the first archetypical concept for this Logos, the concept that we call the Magician?
Ra:...We now address your query as to the archetype which is the Matrix of the Mind. As to its name, the name of Magician is understandable when you consider that consciousness is the great foundation, mystery, and revelation which makes this particular density possible. The self-conscious entity is full of the magic of that which is to come. It may be considered first, for the mind is the first of the complexes to be developed by the student of spiritual evolution.
I also think that it's important to note that although the significator of the mind carries with it all the distilled experiences from prior incarnations, at birth the matrix of the mind and body are pristine, and actions by them are biased out of free will unless acted upon by their respective potentiator. Finally let's see what Ra says about the gender aspects associated with these four archetypes.
Ra Book IV, Session 87 Wrote:Questioner: Why is the male and the female nature different?
Ra: I am Ra. When the veiling process was accomplished, to the male polarity was attracted the Matrix of the Mind and to the female, the Potentiator of the Mind, to the male the Potentiator of the Body, to the female the Matrix of the Body.
Thus begins the dance between mind and body, matrix and potentiator.
3D Sunset