02-04-2016, 07:06 PM
Thanks for your very constructive feedback everybody. This was a tough thing to talk about. I feel a little bit like Tired Philosopher where I'm not sure the energy y'all are getting from what I wrote is exactly the energy I put into it. But I tried to be honest and let it all hang out. Really: the last thing I want to be associated with is PUA/MRAs. Just not me.
This was recommended to me out of the blue by a friend. When I chose to read it was in the midst of a transformative phase I've been going through. I interpreted it simultaneously as an opportunity and a test. Can I make use of this information without losing polarity? That's been my question all along. I halfway expect that I will reject all this stuff at some point, but I have to be where I'm at and learn the lessons I asked for.
Austin, I think you're right: this is about wisdom. I read a Q'uo reading recently that talked about Orange Ray and how your relationship to your own self can be a kind of relationship-with-another, and how blockages here can affect indigo ray influences of worthiness. It struck me as poignant to what I was dealing with. And it also gave me a context through which to interpret this reddit I'm reading called The Red Pill [specifically I'm in the Married Red Pill subreddit because those issues are more like mine as I'm not trying to pick up women or be a bad-a$$ or anything]. You can see the part I thought was especially important and speaking to this here. The gist:
For me, the issue is: 1. how to deal with behavior that I find unacceptable in a way that allows me to go through this process, 2. not reinforcing that behavior unthinkingly by playing into it.
The core of the stuff that I find useful is about asserting your own desires, needs, and being honest. It's about understanding your relationships as tests of your own demeanor, composure, emotional maturity, etc. Facing up that you have work to do on yourself if you want to respect yourself and have other respect you. Realizing that your frame of mind determines whether others' emotions and actions towards you sweep you away uncontrollably or allow you to "reject a service as not requested". It's basically stoicism: focus on the things that are under your control, and accept that others' behavior and feelings are not under your control.
There's definitely an element of how one relates to women in there. I see a lot of anger and resentment in how folks are advised to behave, and it scares me. Some of it is manipulative of so-called "female psychology", but if I were to view it in its most favorable light I'd say that it recognizes that manipulation goes both ways, and that this is simply the way men and women relate. And I have to say that after having my eyes open to the fact that, ya know, I'm an adult and I can do whatever I choose, I see how much of it is invested in my relationships -- both my investment and others'.
I appreciate your compassion, Austin. Breaking out of the comfortable mindset for better or worse is the fool's leap into the unknown. Maybe I'll become completely unbearable because of this. But everything I've been through in my life has led to this. To dither on it rather than pay attention to the lessons in it is silly. Worst case scenario? I give myself a lot of lessons in forgiving myself for being a jacka$$.
This was recommended to me out of the blue by a friend. When I chose to read it was in the midst of a transformative phase I've been going through. I interpreted it simultaneously as an opportunity and a test. Can I make use of this information without losing polarity? That's been my question all along. I halfway expect that I will reject all this stuff at some point, but I have to be where I'm at and learn the lessons I asked for.
Austin, I think you're right: this is about wisdom. I read a Q'uo reading recently that talked about Orange Ray and how your relationship to your own self can be a kind of relationship-with-another, and how blockages here can affect indigo ray influences of worthiness. It struck me as poignant to what I was dealing with. And it also gave me a context through which to interpret this reddit I'm reading called The Red Pill [specifically I'm in the Married Red Pill subreddit because those issues are more like mine as I'm not trying to pick up women or be a bad-a$$ or anything]. You can see the part I thought was especially important and speaking to this here. The gist:
Quote:Therefore, those who irritate you, make you impatient, or make you angry or jealous or any of those seemingly difficult emotions are doing you the favor of bringing to your attention a part of yourself that you have neglected. And why would you not wish to neglect the murderer within you, the adulterer within you and so forth? But we are not suggesting that you act out all of these roles. We are suggesting that you gaze at the type of energy that is expended when you are working with certain emotions.
For me, the issue is: 1. how to deal with behavior that I find unacceptable in a way that allows me to go through this process, 2. not reinforcing that behavior unthinkingly by playing into it.
The core of the stuff that I find useful is about asserting your own desires, needs, and being honest. It's about understanding your relationships as tests of your own demeanor, composure, emotional maturity, etc. Facing up that you have work to do on yourself if you want to respect yourself and have other respect you. Realizing that your frame of mind determines whether others' emotions and actions towards you sweep you away uncontrollably or allow you to "reject a service as not requested". It's basically stoicism: focus on the things that are under your control, and accept that others' behavior and feelings are not under your control.
There's definitely an element of how one relates to women in there. I see a lot of anger and resentment in how folks are advised to behave, and it scares me. Some of it is manipulative of so-called "female psychology", but if I were to view it in its most favorable light I'd say that it recognizes that manipulation goes both ways, and that this is simply the way men and women relate. And I have to say that after having my eyes open to the fact that, ya know, I'm an adult and I can do whatever I choose, I see how much of it is invested in my relationships -- both my investment and others'.
I appreciate your compassion, Austin. Breaking out of the comfortable mindset for better or worse is the fool's leap into the unknown. Maybe I'll become completely unbearable because of this. But everything I've been through in my life has led to this. To dither on it rather than pay attention to the lessons in it is silly. Worst case scenario? I give myself a lot of lessons in forgiving myself for being a jacka$$.