11-08-2015, 04:33 PM
(11-08-2015, 02:02 PM)Diana Wrote:(11-08-2015, 12:54 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: I do not expect conclusions to be reached as that would require much more unveiling of one's past than it is available to most in this 3D. Perhaps a common understanding will be reached, but surely not in this density. What we do is more akin to planting seeds for further work and creating entanglement.
This is a lovely way to see it. I disagree that it is beyond us at this point however. If I use my own life as an example, I have evolved and changed and let go of paradigms, changed opinions according to the information many, many times. I knew many things outside of the 3D consciousness even as a little girl. So I think the potential is there to understand some, regardless of the veil, if we continue to open up to whatever that knowledge is and let go of judgments.
(11-08-2015, 12:54 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: Your rapist analogy resonate very little since I have no desire for rape, nor did I ever let myself think badly of rapists and such. If I were to contemplate a rapist, I'd probably feel sad for the entity rather than feeling repulsed by it like you seem to be.
This would be my reaction also. This is why I think prisons should be places of healing, where the "criminals" can learn they they can be loved.
To relate this to being vegan, I don't think in general there is any repulsion or hatred toward humans who eat meat/dairy, or who factory farm and slaughter them. The emotions are focused on the repulsion of what is happening to the animals, and the sadness felt at knowing or seeing it. It is sad to see others suffer, even if it is the rapist.
Do you think there are sometimes approaches to 'raise awareness' which might come across as repulsion? I admit, a lot of the propaganda I see on the subject seems to be trying pretty hard to make people feel guilty about themselves and instill a sense of self-repulsion. Maybe that isn't the intention, but methods and techniques often don't fully represent their true intentions.
The problem is that it isn't easy for someone who is an observer to distinguish between the repulsion towards the situation and repulsion towards the people because they often appear to go hand in hand, especially when meme's and heavy biases become involved. There are times when the language itself that is being used comes across as degrading as though those who 'don't get it' are 'missing the obvious' and they somehow lack the sensibility to 'see the facts'. It's hard to feel like one's intelligence is not being insulted at times.
I just wonder if the approaches in language to discussion and raising awareness are sometimes shooting the effort in the foot because of the other separations that sometimes come about.