10-02-2015, 02:13 PM
I'm just letting you guys know how it feels when the ganging up is being done on the other end.
I understand your points and Monica's, your points don't slither around logical fallacies, and your points consistently approach in kindness, even in your disagreements to how I approach Monica you do not respond in the manners she does.
I understand the message. I got that, I even worked towards being it before a part of me woke up and said I don't like the way I was talked into it. I gave up pork permanently, and I am trying to get my mom to also consider spending money on more fruits and veggies over packages of meat since I'm not the only food supplier or cooker in this household.
What gets to me is the subtle cruelty, the dogmatic zeal in providing pain to others to 'change them', then preaching Law of One religiously and using it to further your own opinions.
I have not seen that in a single post by you Diana. Not. One.
It's just like how I'm trying to cut back to permanently not eating beef, then from there turkey and chicken. But I don't do so because of guilt, I do so because I've seen the factory farming videos, and more. I've watched 4chan's video's of murdering animals for pleasure. I've seen people throw kittens and puppies violently into raging rivers.
I've seen dolphins be sliced open and left to bleed to death in their own pooling blood twitching into lifelessness.
I am not the sword wielder slicing open that dolphin. I am not that woman chucking puppies into a raging river. I am not that farmer stabbing a pig repeatedly until it dies, boiling pigs alive, siphoning their blood slowly while alive. I am not that man who wrangles up dead carcasses and sells them for profit.
I might slowly ache that entire process along, but I try to make up for it. The entire time in doing so, I have been inferred as a rapist, murderer, torturer, and the one who does those things simply for consuming a cooked meal containing meat.
Let's speak of hostility in the Community Relationships forum regarding Monica. I never saw the responses to my post asking if we could speak about the way this issue is discussed on the forums. Last I was told, the thread was asked to be deleted.
As far as hostile goes, let's discuss it. But that requires all of us approaching each other in the love and light of honesty and consideration for the other. I have tried to do so, after I blatantly showed myself not even trying originally. I even decided to gently, not brashly remark against Monica now and then.
I even tried to self-damn myself as a monster to try and help her see that speaking to others in these ways (see the last page) is no better than being as I deemed myself to be.
If I approached her any different way I'd begin worrying I'd need to dress up as a woman, and approach her as not myself at all to try and get a fresh start at helping her see her own inherent problems at how she goes about this, not what her message is.
But damn, in so doing I'm still the bad guy. So be it. I'm used to being made out to be this way. I'll continue as I have been, prodding her in the side when she starts becoming cruel and I notice. I don't intend hostility. Just to help her see that she's being cruel. I get why too, I'm the murderer, I'm the rapist, I'm the torturer.
Kay, off to rape-mart for my daily ass and crumpets. In the mean time, she's there too with me, telling me as a preacher of light that it is wrong, that I am damning myself so says this magical sixth entity alien Egyptian God speaking through a transient woman of faith. With a signature twisting the words of a passage of that 'Material' scribed from the words of that God.
Last I checked, the Law of One asked me to see all things as sacred, to accept all actions as they are. To see all things to be as belonging to one thing.
How do I take someone using such a material so hypocritically? I got mad, then I tried to accept it, then I did. Now I'm just trying to make sure she doesn't do what Anagogy quoted on this page of this thread.
Become a manipulative devious player of concepts, dodging and deflecting professionally as if politically, to push her agenda while smothering the opinions of others as null and void.
As far as the Law of Attraction goes, I'm trying to help her from setting herself up to be treated so cruelly later by trying to help her see what exactly she is putting out into the universe versus what she thinks she is.
But honestly, I just want her to follow the damn guidelines and be more considerate to the opinions of others. . . You can disagree, but to call someone a murderer, rapist, and torturer for having an opinion, then throwing their own philosophy/spirituality in their face religiously.
I don't blame myself for being mad. It is madness, after all.
I understand your points and Monica's, your points don't slither around logical fallacies, and your points consistently approach in kindness, even in your disagreements to how I approach Monica you do not respond in the manners she does.
I understand the message. I got that, I even worked towards being it before a part of me woke up and said I don't like the way I was talked into it. I gave up pork permanently, and I am trying to get my mom to also consider spending money on more fruits and veggies over packages of meat since I'm not the only food supplier or cooker in this household.
What gets to me is the subtle cruelty, the dogmatic zeal in providing pain to others to 'change them', then preaching Law of One religiously and using it to further your own opinions.
I have not seen that in a single post by you Diana. Not. One.
It's just like how I'm trying to cut back to permanently not eating beef, then from there turkey and chicken. But I don't do so because of guilt, I do so because I've seen the factory farming videos, and more. I've watched 4chan's video's of murdering animals for pleasure. I've seen people throw kittens and puppies violently into raging rivers.
I've seen dolphins be sliced open and left to bleed to death in their own pooling blood twitching into lifelessness.
I am not the sword wielder slicing open that dolphin. I am not that woman chucking puppies into a raging river. I am not that farmer stabbing a pig repeatedly until it dies, boiling pigs alive, siphoning their blood slowly while alive. I am not that man who wrangles up dead carcasses and sells them for profit.
I might slowly ache that entire process along, but I try to make up for it. The entire time in doing so, I have been inferred as a rapist, murderer, torturer, and the one who does those things simply for consuming a cooked meal containing meat.
Let's speak of hostility in the Community Relationships forum regarding Monica. I never saw the responses to my post asking if we could speak about the way this issue is discussed on the forums. Last I was told, the thread was asked to be deleted.
As far as hostile goes, let's discuss it. But that requires all of us approaching each other in the love and light of honesty and consideration for the other. I have tried to do so, after I blatantly showed myself not even trying originally. I even decided to gently, not brashly remark against Monica now and then.
I even tried to self-damn myself as a monster to try and help her see that speaking to others in these ways (see the last page) is no better than being as I deemed myself to be.
If I approached her any different way I'd begin worrying I'd need to dress up as a woman, and approach her as not myself at all to try and get a fresh start at helping her see her own inherent problems at how she goes about this, not what her message is.
But damn, in so doing I'm still the bad guy. So be it. I'm used to being made out to be this way. I'll continue as I have been, prodding her in the side when she starts becoming cruel and I notice. I don't intend hostility. Just to help her see that she's being cruel. I get why too, I'm the murderer, I'm the rapist, I'm the torturer.
Kay, off to rape-mart for my daily ass and crumpets. In the mean time, she's there too with me, telling me as a preacher of light that it is wrong, that I am damning myself so says this magical sixth entity alien Egyptian God speaking through a transient woman of faith. With a signature twisting the words of a passage of that 'Material' scribed from the words of that God.
Last I checked, the Law of One asked me to see all things as sacred, to accept all actions as they are. To see all things to be as belonging to one thing.
How do I take someone using such a material so hypocritically? I got mad, then I tried to accept it, then I did. Now I'm just trying to make sure she doesn't do what Anagogy quoted on this page of this thread.
Become a manipulative devious player of concepts, dodging and deflecting professionally as if politically, to push her agenda while smothering the opinions of others as null and void.
As far as the Law of Attraction goes, I'm trying to help her from setting herself up to be treated so cruelly later by trying to help her see what exactly she is putting out into the universe versus what she thinks she is.
But honestly, I just want her to follow the damn guidelines and be more considerate to the opinions of others. . . You can disagree, but to call someone a murderer, rapist, and torturer for having an opinion, then throwing their own philosophy/spirituality in their face religiously.
I don't blame myself for being mad. It is madness, after all.