03-25-2009, 10:55 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-25-2009, 10:59 PM by Memorandem.)
JC, I think I have some advice for you, but having lived only half of your life, I cannot claim it to be accurate.
Read the Wanderer's Handbook, in the link below. You are definitely a wanderer if you have found your way here.
http://www.llresearch.org/library/a_wand...k_pdf.aspx
And here is a LOO study guide. This is what I've started reading. If you are just reading the transcripts in order, you may not get the specific LOO information right away.
http://www.spiritofra.com/Ra-section%201.htm
When you get board of reading one, start reading another and cycle through them this way. It helps me. If you do not like to read a lot, take heart! The joy of your soul will be found in truly comprehending. You will know in the end what your work was worth.
As far as the Unawakened, I believe it is possible to awaken them. But before trying, you should know thyself. You must grab them by the heart. The key to making them realize their desire to awaken is in their deepest fears and emotional issues. Most of all, show love and respect, and don't be elitist or try to force this upon them. That can end a relationship uber fast.
I have a few more sources to suggest. One is Gurdjieff's work. The Cassipaean Glossary here is a very good piece of the puzzle and was absolutely instrumental in my awakening thus far. I cannot describe how much the information here concerning spiritual awakening is worth to me.
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary....368&lsel=G
Here is a collection of links. Gurdjieff focuses around probing your deepest depths and discovering yourself. If you read these links in order, I hope you are enlightened. These are condensed summaries of teachings of various people, but central to this work are Gurdjieff's ideas. I have arranged them in order so the base concepts are first (but realize that almost everything Gurdjieff taught were base concepts). Skip these links though until you have read this entire post.
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=1
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=7
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary....333&lsel=F
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary....634&lsel=R
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=3
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=702
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=890
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=4&lsel=C
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary....905&lsel=C
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary....235&lsel=D
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary....246&lsel=D
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=2&lsel=F
The list goes on.
I suggest you go to that glossary and learn as much as you can, as it will supplement the LOO material quite nicely (although there are some small changes between the LOO and the Cassiopaean stuff, they still go together and form a more complete picture). This information is extremely helpful in keeping your feet on the ground, while trying to understand the higher dimensional concepts. Gurdjieff taught that we should work on the lower centers the most, and use them to base ourselves spiritually, rather than trying to understand the higher dimensional concepts without adequate grounding. To hopefully give you a better idea of what I mean, here is one of my forum posts.
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=202
I stress that it is for your own good that you develop a strong material base. The stronger the base, the faster the higher spiritual lessons can be learned, and with the least trouble.
I hope this helpful to you.
- Memorandem
Read the Wanderer's Handbook, in the link below. You are definitely a wanderer if you have found your way here.
http://www.llresearch.org/library/a_wand...k_pdf.aspx
And here is a LOO study guide. This is what I've started reading. If you are just reading the transcripts in order, you may not get the specific LOO information right away.
http://www.spiritofra.com/Ra-section%201.htm
When you get board of reading one, start reading another and cycle through them this way. It helps me. If you do not like to read a lot, take heart! The joy of your soul will be found in truly comprehending. You will know in the end what your work was worth.
As far as the Unawakened, I believe it is possible to awaken them. But before trying, you should know thyself. You must grab them by the heart. The key to making them realize their desire to awaken is in their deepest fears and emotional issues. Most of all, show love and respect, and don't be elitist or try to force this upon them. That can end a relationship uber fast.
I have a few more sources to suggest. One is Gurdjieff's work. The Cassipaean Glossary here is a very good piece of the puzzle and was absolutely instrumental in my awakening thus far. I cannot describe how much the information here concerning spiritual awakening is worth to me.
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary....368&lsel=G
Here is a collection of links. Gurdjieff focuses around probing your deepest depths and discovering yourself. If you read these links in order, I hope you are enlightened. These are condensed summaries of teachings of various people, but central to this work are Gurdjieff's ideas. I have arranged them in order so the base concepts are first (but realize that almost everything Gurdjieff taught were base concepts). Skip these links though until you have read this entire post.
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=1
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=7
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary....333&lsel=F
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary....634&lsel=R
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=3
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=702
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=890
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=4&lsel=C
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary....905&lsel=C
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary....235&lsel=D
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary....246&lsel=D
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=2&lsel=F
The list goes on.
I suggest you go to that glossary and learn as much as you can, as it will supplement the LOO material quite nicely (although there are some small changes between the LOO and the Cassiopaean stuff, they still go together and form a more complete picture). This information is extremely helpful in keeping your feet on the ground, while trying to understand the higher dimensional concepts. Gurdjieff taught that we should work on the lower centers the most, and use them to base ourselves spiritually, rather than trying to understand the higher dimensional concepts without adequate grounding. To hopefully give you a better idea of what I mean, here is one of my forum posts.
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=202
I stress that it is for your own good that you develop a strong material base. The stronger the base, the faster the higher spiritual lessons can be learned, and with the least trouble.
I hope this helpful to you.
- Memorandem