09-05-2010, 04:37 AM
(09-04-2010, 07:51 PM)unity100 Wrote: having no end, would mean that something is infinite in regard to time, space, or anything that can expand or go into future, (or any change comparable to another change).
in that meaning, having the pattern of the infinite intelligence, and being able to expand inwards infinitely towards infinite time, would mean that one is, infinite in one's own self. however, this infinity is towards inside, one's inner world. even if this world overlaps with others. this is a state of having no end. however, it is still a qualifier. you exist, you have no end. there is something called 'you'.
for infinity, none of these would be valid concepts. 'having no end'. irrelevant, since this is also a concept that has to be in infinity. along with its counterpart, 'having an end'. no need to tell that 'you' or 'me' concepts fall very low level compared to infinity.
there is only one infinity, and it is infinite. being able to expand in that infinity towards infinite time, therefore having no end in that fashion, does not make one that infinity.
there are no mistakes in regard to this - infinity, is infinity, and it cannot 'choose' and then become limited, because all of these, have to be concepts already present within infinity, with their counterparts. letting go of either of them would mean that infinity wouldnt be able to be infinity anymore.
in regard to 'illusion', it is what we know as 'reality'. there is no different 'reality' aside from this neverending infinite 'illusion'. the only state outside of this, is, infinity. and infinity, has all states, and also, no state. its unreal, and also 'real'.
the term 'illusion' have probably derived from the earthly (or, this solar system's) philosophies and understandings' needs to state that bodily incarnations are a passing thing, yet spirit remains forever.
it is true, however, it is also wrong. even tho an incarnation may be a passing blink in the existence of an entity, it is still there. the fact that it passes and state changes does not mean that it didnt happen, it was 'unreal' (whatever unreal means, since anything that can be perceived regardless of anything, is something that exists within infinity), or it didnt have any effects. the very present you is the combination of such 'passing' 'illusory' incarnations and experiences in the first place. and the very future you, will be the sum of all that you are to go through. moreover, the 'flesh' that one is being incarnated to, is also spirit, and very probably contains innumerable future souls that are going to live in 3d, when they move through 1, 2d and eventually move to 3d. it is still intelligent energy. it exists.
if we take it from the perspective of spirit, it becomes even more basic - if one attempts to dub existence of spirit as 'illusory' and all this existence, creation, 'unreal' (whatever that is), and goes on to say that there is only infinity, that would be phenomenonally wrong. firstly, since infinity has to be comprised of infinity, it has to be comprised of ANY existing thing, even concepts or passing thoughts and then even lower level concepts that entities can perceive in this universe/octave. leave aside the fact that there are infinite amounts of concepts, existences in infinite numbers of earlier, and future octaves .... that means, since anything has to be a part of infinity, and infinity cant be infinity without being everything, anything that you perceive, are sure to be parts of that infinity. doesnt matter how you dub it, how you take it, how you name it. if you can perceive it, if you can feel or know its effects through any means, it means that it is sure to be a part of infinity.
there are infinite amounts of things/concepts we cant even perceive yet, in future octaves. there are things we dont know in infinity yet. there are things that even infinite intelligence doesnt know or experienced yet. but, we know infinity exists, and there are an infinite number of these to be seen and experienced yet. that leaves us the certainty of the fact that what we felt any effect from, in any manner, is surely something that exists, and part of infinity.
that has numerous consequences. one of the interesting ones being that, even if you saw something, a 'hallucination' (as it is dubbed in modern medicine), under the effect of a drug, totally 'unreal', it still exists. because anything perceived, has to be part of infinity. even if you perceived it differently, or wrong. if you imagined something, it exists. if you felt something, it exists. and so goes.
Unity100, for any further discussions you participate in on this website that regard Infinity and our relationship to it, you should just copy and paste this post you just wrote. This is the most efficient communication of your perspective on the subject as far as I'm concerned. Word.