There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY

[Monica]

1.5 You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

Please give one or two that support the idea that Ra distinguishes between infinity and intelligent infinity.

OK thanks for the quote. So Ra said we are infinity. I stand corrected. However, I don't think that negates my point that we are still distortions. My interpretation of "You are infinite" is that infinity is contained in us. How else could we be all of unity (undistorted) and yet distorted?

Here is the one I was thinking of:

13.5 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me of the first known thing in the creation?

Ra: I am Ra. The first known thing in the creation is infinity. The infinity is creation.

13.6 Questioner: From this infinity then must come what we experience as creation. What was the next step or the next evolvement?

Ra: I am Ra. Infinity became aware. This was the next step.

13.7 Questioner: After this, what came next?

Ra: I am Ra. Awareness led to the focus of infinity into infinite energy. You have called this by various vibrational sound complexes, the most common to your ears being “Logos” or “Love.” The Creator is the focusing of infinity as an aware or conscious principle called by us as closely as we can create understanding/learning in your language, intelligent infinity.

This shows the distinction between infinity and intelligent infinity. The latter is the focusing of the former.

So, what do we know from this? We know we are infinity.

We know that infinity is unity.

Anything less than total unity is distortion.

Do we have distortion? Clearly we do. We are distortions. Thus, are we total unity? It is being argued that we are, but just think we aren't, due to the illusion that we aren't. But no one has answered my question: What is illusion?

Is illusion not distortion itself? And yet, also included in infinity? If infinity is unity of all, then infinity must include illusion. Therefore, it doesn't seem accurate to say that infinity is all there is, and anything less than that is 'just illusion' as though illusion were somehow outside of infinity, as though they were competing.

It seems to me that the seeming disagreement is based on a confusion of these 2 terms. The arguments put forth seem to be in favor of us being infinite beings, and containing infinity, which I agree with. However, in my opinion, that doesn't mean we are infinity. The reason I see it this way is that, in my understanding, the very definition of infinity is without distortion.

1. Does Infinity have distortion?
2. Do we have distortion?
3. What is illusion?

The paradox at the heart of the Ra material, as I understand it, is that we are the one infinity, whole and undistorted, but have chosen to adopt the finite viewpoint of seemingly separate entities. The illusion is that we are separate and finite.

But we're not undistorted. We're distorted. If we have "chosen to adopt the finite viewpoint of seemingly separate entities" then that means we're distorted. That's what distortion is! It's any viewpoint other than that of the whole!

So, I contend that we cannot simultaneously be undistorted and "adopt the finite viewpoint" ...HOWEVER we CAN simultaneously be infinite and distorted.

We know this, because Ra stated that "solar systems, galaxies and planets" are both distorted and yet infinite. Thus, it stands to reason that if celestial bodies can be both distorted and yet infinity, so can we!

13.9 Questioner: Then can you tell me how the galaxy and planetary systems were formed?

Ra: I am Ra. You must imagine a great leap of thought in this query, for at the last query the physical, as you call, it, universes were not yet born.

The energies moved in increasingly intelligent patterns until the individualization of various energies emanating from the creative principle of intelligent infinity became such as to be co-Creators. Thus the so-called physical matter began. The concept of light is instrumental in grasping this great leap of thought as this vibrational distortion of infinity is the building block of that which is known as matter, the light being intelligent and full of energy, thus being the first distortion of intelligent infinity which was called by the creative principle.

This light of love was made to have in its occurrences of being certain characteristics, among them the infinite whole paradoxically described by the straight line, as you would call it. This paradox is responsible for the shape of the various physical illusion entities you call solar systems, galaxies, and planets of revolving and tending towards the lenticular.

Would anyone like to tackle the above paragraph about the infinite whole described by a straight line??

13.11 Questioner: Taking the question just before the one I asked about the galaxies and planets and tell me what the next step was from there?

Ra: I am Ra. The steps, as you call them, are, at the point of question, simultaneous and infinite.

13.13 Questioner: Was the galaxy that we are in created by the infinite intelligence or was it created by a portion of the infinite intelligence?

Ra: I am Ra. The galaxy and all other things of material of which you are aware are products of individualized portions of intelligent infinity. As each exploration began, it, in turn, found its focus and became co-Creator. Using intelligent infinity each portion created an universe and allowing the rhythms of free choice to flow, playing with the infinite spectrum of possibilities, each individualized portion channeled the love/light into what you might call intelligent energy, thus creating the so-called Natural Laws of any particular universe.

Each universe, in turn, individualized to a focus becoming, in turn, co-Creator and allowing further diversity, thus creating further intelligent energies regularizing or causing Natural Laws to appear in the vibrational patterns of what you would call a solar system. Thus, each solar system has its own, shall we say, local coordinate system of illusory Natural Laws. It shall be understood that any portion, no matter how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the One Creator which is infinity. Thus all begins and ends in mystery.

Note that we contain infinity...we contain the One Infinite Creator. And yet, we are distorted. We are holographic pieces of the whole, containing a pattern of the whole, but we are not the whole.