There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY

[Aaron]

Are you saying that the infinite Creator is not infinite? That just seems silly. Intelligent Infinity is not a subset of infinity. Infinity became aware. It is now intelligent.

Hi, βαθμιαίος! How am I supposed to read that, anyways? In my head, it sounds like "Bayouiaoc", but I know that's not right... lol!

I've been following the discussion over the last couple of days, and haven't been able to share anything until now. I usually don't focus on this kind of stuff that has to do with intellectualizing the spirit anyways.

I don't know for sure if you're saying that now that we have Intelligent Infinity, so to speak, that Inifnity is no longer "unintelligent", being superseded by Intelligent Infinity. But you seem to at least say that Infinity is now Intelligent Infinity.

To me, this doesn't make sense. I think Intelligent Infinity, being the intelligent creating principle behind every speck and fathom of creation, inner and outer, is not limited to an existence separate from Infinity, or to an existence at all! We have at least three concepts here, Infinity (or Tao), Intelligent Infinity (or Creator), and Creation (or Universe). As best as I can try to understand them with this tiny little speck of a human mind, we have a sort of proceeding of concepts with no certain way to apply position in space or the passage of time to them. For convenience of understanding, we can say that first there was Infinity, which then became aware and started to create. But it always was and always will be Infinity.

You are, for convenience of understanding, a human being. When you're sitting in meditation, you're a human being with no action, no distortion, complete awareness. (supposedly lol) When you get up and become active, you are still, at base, a human being. But now there is a new level, a new active principle to you. This is how I see Intelligent Infinity. It's the motion and creation of Infinity, independent from, but not replacing, the state of Infinity being Infinite. One more step down, the Creation or Universe is what the motion brings into being.