(09-01-2010, 02:18 PM)Quantum Wrote: The Universe is contained within ourselves, not we in the Universe.
Why must one be negated in favor of the other? As Nassim Haramein's work illustrates, both are equally true.
But even this description is about the universe, not necessarily about infinity.
The concept is described by the Yin/Yang symbol. One side (Yang) could signify the ever-expanding UniVerse (outward, which we are contained in), while the other (Yin) could signify the infinite UniVerse within (as Nassim says, 'infinitely small' ie expanding in the other direction).
But neither of these is the Tao. Neither is The Tao illustrated by the stationary picture of the Yin/Yang symbol. Wholeness of reality is depicted by both Yin and Yang spinning and flowing one into the other.
Even this is not the eternal Tao (infinity). The Tao that can be named is not the eternal Tao.
Quantum, what you are describing is infinity within a limit. Nassim describes this in detail.
If I am understanding unity100 correctly, what he is describing is infinity without limits, which includes all directions, all demarcations, all distortions....hence, without distortion.
(09-01-2010, 10:35 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: The Infinite Creator is within us. Logically, in order to contain it, we have to be infinite.
Yes, we are infinite...within a limit. As long as we are 'we' we are a distortion.
(09-01-2010, 10:35 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: The paradox at the heart of Ra's teaching is that each seemingly separate entity actually contains the entirety of that infinity/unity. That means that when you and I discuss, it's actually the Creator discussing with Itself.
As long as there is a 'you' and 'I' there is distortion.
(09-01-2010, 10:35 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: The quote I gave (below) explains, as do the various ones I gave you in the Ra-Horakte thread on faith. You can open the door to the present moment (= the door to infinity) in a moment. The question is when you will do so.
True. The infinity within. But as long as there is still a 'you' there is still distortion.