[split] "Some people eat animals, some don't."

[Monica]

Nobody is talking about torturing or harming animals here.

Why not? It's impossible to eat meat without harming animals, and it's impossible to eat out at restaurants or buy meat from grocery stores without not only harming animals, but torturing them as well, because that is how meat is produced in the US, as well as other parts of the world.

ALL meat harms animals! And most commercially-produced meat and dairy torture them as well.

That inconvenient fact cannot be separated from the discussion.

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