(07-06-2015, 03:58 PM)Monica Wrote:(07-06-2015, 03:15 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I'm pretty sure you knew what I meant.Yes, what I thought you meant was that it's ok to support it, as long as we don't have to look at it. Out of sight, out of mind. Just pay someone else to do the dirty work.
I do agree I am a very out of sight, out of mind person. Not just in this area.
(07-06-2015, 03:58 PM)Monica Wrote:(07-06-2015, 03:15 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I could also say that from my beliefs and a meta-physical perspective, any vegan who is seeking something to fight against, is creating the need of it to exist within Creation and thus partaking in the problem being there in the first place.
I agree. Looking for trouble helps create it.
But in this case, we aren't looking for it. It's all around us, in our faces, every day.
If you look at time from a non-linear perspective and acknowledge yourself as the OIC and the center of your own reality, you're still creating all of it. It's your own little world you created just for yourself to learn about yourself.
(07-06-2015, 03:58 PM)Monica Wrote:(07-06-2015, 03:15 PM)Minyatur Wrote: Is the world around not simply a projection your created? Are you not every animal slaugtherer?
Yes, and the first step in creating something different is to make the choice to no longer participate, because participating adds energy to the projection.
As I said in another thread, you look so much into it that as a quantum observer, you partake more in this reality being as it is than I do. This whole planet could be vegan for all I care, it's not part of the reasons I am here.
Just partaking into society is putting fuel into any sort of corruption that exists within mankind. If I had a problem with that, I wouldn't have incarnated on this planet.
(07-06-2015, 03:58 PM)Monica Wrote:(07-06-2015, 03:15 PM)Minyatur Wrote: As it was said in a Qu'o channeling, you are not here to change this world but to love and accept it.
As I've said in other threads, I think most people here misinterpret the term accept. I also don't consider the Q'uo material to be anywhere near as undistorted as the Ra Material.
Not to mention, that supporting suffering isn't just 'accepting' it; it's adding to it.
Never said this was untrue, but if I become vegan, which will probably eventually happen when I'll actually do my own groceries, I still wouldn't feel the need to convince others to adhere to my ways. Nor would I not eat something somewhere just for it to be thrown.
I am not quite sure how you do view the term accept. To me acceptance comes from acknowledging that the deeds of others are also your own.
(07-06-2015, 03:58 PM)Monica Wrote:(07-06-2015, 03:15 PM)Minyatur Wrote: In a way you could find it sad that you need so many animal slaugthers for you to work your own distortions, even if from your perspective you have nothing to do with it.
LOL! How convenient. "I am going to continue to support animal slaughter by paying for slaughterhouse products, but you - YOU! are the one creating them because you need them to work through your own distortions."
OK got it.
I never said anything about what you told me being untrue. As I said above if this planet was vegan, it wouldn't change much to my purpose in incarnating whereas it seem very central to why you are here, which does imply you did need this reality to be as it is in this regard.
Someone that so actively works to change things. reflects the need of having something "external" to change, that's all I say. You can be doing this for all of eternity if you wished so and there would be endless places responding to your need.
As you probably noticed, I can also do this for all of eternity. This is a mirror game and I love mirroring and being mirrored.
