08-19-2010, 10:31 PM
(08-17-2010, 03:47 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: But even when awareness is restricted being can never be restricted.
Very nicely put.
(08-17-2010, 07:28 AM)unity100 Wrote: illusion ?
Yes. The concept is straight from Ra.
(08-17-2010, 07:28 AM)unity100 Wrote: for infinity to be infinite, everything should be in it. that contains the concept 'illusion', if there was ever a concept that could be used in such a degrading manner regarding manifestations of infinity. first of all, if you take the 'illusion' concept out of infinity, it will not remain as infinity. so, illusion has to be there in infinity too.
I'm not saying the illusion isn't part of infinity. We are still part of the infinite Creator, even as we investigate finity.
(08-17-2010, 07:28 AM)unity100 Wrote: second, the existence we know goes in octaves. so, there was an octave prior to this, and an octave after this, and according to what Ra says, infinite octaves. that means, manifestation in these octaves continue in the 'illusory' form as you dub it, towards infinity. so, there are infinite octaves going on in an 'illusory' manifestation. ie, the entities in the next octave, in its 2nd density, will still be limited in their 'illusion' according to their octave's rules and nature.
Right.
(08-17-2010, 07:28 AM)unity100 Wrote: 'you' cant choose to limit yourself to finity. because, if there is something that can be called 'me' , and any kind of choice that it can make, that means that that thing was not infinite from the start, but, finite.
Right. That's why Ra calls it an illusion. You can only seem to be finite; really you're the Creator which is all that there is.
(08-17-2010, 07:28 AM)unity100 Wrote: infinity is. it doesnt make choices, because all choices are within it. it cannot be or choose to be anything other than itself, because then it wouldnt be infinite. leading to nothing existing, because everything is contained within it.
According to Ra, it does make choices. "Thus, the one intelligent infinity invested itself in an exploration of many-ness."
(08-17-2010, 07:28 AM)unity100 Wrote: the 'seemingly' word is also out of place by the way. there is no other finite than this. the 'finite', is this. finity that is known, is this. dubbing it 'illusion' or 'fake' doesnt change the fact that as far as what we know, finite can be like this, and entities that are finite, are like this. ie, this is finity. the finite, is this. there isnt another 'finite' concept so that the finity can be an 'illusion'. finity we discovered, is as this.
I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here. But our finity is different than that in other galaxies, according to Ra, in that our natural laws are different. Likewise, as you pointed out, our experience is presumably vastly different from that in the next octave.
(08-17-2010, 07:28 AM)unity100 Wrote: there is infinite time passing in between that late 7th and late 8th, yet, there are infinite octaves which pass in between 1st and 7th.
that makes the two states pretty much equal.
I don't disagree, but I may be missing your point. We were talking about becoming one with all in seventh density. (You had said that it wasn't possible to become one with all other selves' dark sides.)
(08-17-2010, 07:28 AM)unity100 Wrote: answer is simple ; only finites can explore infinity. aspects of infinity. with this logic, also exploration is an entity, that can explore infinity, in infinite time.
Right. And hence intelligent infinity's decision to investigate finity.