To Vaccinate or Not

[Monica]

Please stop Monica - I have never once argued that "injecting poisons...preserved with formaldehyde...at many times the known safe rate for individual poisons, never taking into account the cumulative effects nor the fact that they're preserved and injected directly into the bloodstream...into infants...is safe".  

I'm unclear why you're trying to say that about what I've shared?

Have you not been arguing all along for the safety and efficacy of vaccines?

Vaccines contain known poisons, at concentrations much, much higher than the standards set by our own medical system. Look up safety standards on 'official, authoritative' sites you trust. (The unbiased ones...hahaha!) Do the math. It's simple common sense that if the ingredients are harmful, then the sum total is harmful.

I find it amusing that you say the site I posted - the one with the ingredients list - is biased. Here, maybe you will like this one better:

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm

Surprise! The ingredients list is the very same! Why? Because that's where they got it!

Your last couple of posts have been very inflammatory, with personal statements about my intentions, rather than discussing the topic amicably and academically. Plus, you have stated several times that my info is biased...as if yours isn't? The height of naivete is thinking that everyone in a multi-billion-$$ industry is honest and well-intentioned, or that there is any such thing as a completely unbiased source of information. 

To accuse the families of the victims as being 'biased' while implying that the drug industry is unbiased...well gosh, I just don't know what to say to that. If you really think that the industry who profits to the tune of nearly $16 Billion per year (just from vaccines) really is UNbiased, while the families who are desperately trying to stand up to this behemoth are biased, then...well, you're entitled to think whatever you like. But that seems rather laughable to me.

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The global pharmaceuticals market is worth US$300 billion a year, a figure expected to rise to US$400 billion within three years. The 10 largest drugs companies control over one-third of this market, several with sales of more than US$10 billion a year and profit margins of about 30%. Six are based in the United States and four in Europe. It is predicted that North and South America, Europe and Japan will continue to account for a full 85% of the global pharmaceuticals market well into the 21st century. Companies currently spend one-third of all sales revenue on marketing their products - roughly twice what they spend on research and development.[/font]

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]As a result of this pressure to maintain sales, there is now, in WHO's words, “an inherent conflict of interest between the legitimate business goals of manufacturers and the social, medical and economic needs of providers and the public to select and use drugs in the most rational way”. This is particularly true where drugs companies are the main source of information as to which products are most effective. Even in the United Kingdom, where the medical profession receives more independent, publicly-funded information than in many other countries, promotional spending by pharmaceuticals companies is 50 times greater than spending on public information on health.[/font]

from http://www.who.int/trade/glossary/story073/en/

I don't need to back up anything. What I have already posted stands on its own merit. There is already plenty of info on this thread, for anyone who is interested, to research further on their own.

I will only reiterate what I've been saying all along: Figures don't lie, but liars can figure. This applies to cancer statistics also. There is plenty of info on how cancer statistics have been twisted, if anyone cares to seek it.

"Please stop?" Stop what? Expressing my own viewpoints in a discussion forum?

Haha, what an odd request. But sure, ok, no problem. I have lost interest in this conversation anyway.