Ra's Statements About 2D Entities

[Jade]

Even if this is so, do you think beings in higher realms would DO what we do here to animals, each other?

We are being from higher realms, doing what we do here. That is why we are here, it is an illusion.

Now, if one acts in a consciously unloving manner, it can cause karmic repercussions. From my experience, what changed for me when I quit eating meat/dairy was that I stopped being at war with my body. It was a huge relief. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of my "karma" from behaving "consciously unloving" was in the form of the various bodily ailments I used to suffer. I cannot speak for others. However, my biggest problem is when a blanket statement that all meat and dairy consumption is behaving in a consciously unloving manner. I cannot buy into that for one second. We all have a choice in 3D, yes. Many nuanced choices where we spend many years and many lifetimes refining our preferences and how we can most be of service.

Eating is so socially ingrained in us, and with so many people a mealtime is synonymous with family. It is no secret that today, for one to be completely vegan, they have to abstain from many of the normal eating celebrations/holidays/gathering we have with our family. This can cause unrest in the family unit. What do you mean, mom can't cook you her favorite meatloaf anymore? And grandma spent all day slaving over this roasted Thanksgiving turkey, you aren't even going to have a bite? To say people are acting unconsciously loving when they don't have the resolve to stand up to familial pressures about diet is a tough call to make. It doesn't help that we are so far removed from the slaughter and we receive our meat either pre-cooked and presented beautifully or in neat bloodless packages weighed out by the ounce at the grocery store, with cute cut names on the package. Advertising, too, is intense, and if I'm starving sometimes even I can't deny how delicious something can look in an artfully crafted advertisement.

I just wish the blanket statements would go away and we could accept that there are gray areas in this debate. I saw in the "spiritual diet" thread that no meat, no eggs, no dairy was spiritual. But if I had a cow, and a small flock of hens, who I cared for and loved daily, and I consumed some of their extra eggs/milk, I think this is pure spiritual love of the Creator in action. It's just as, if not more, spiritual as a tending a garden and harvesting its fruits. I think even if people source their eggs/dairy from very small production, local farms, that it can be a positive and benevolent act.

The only reason people even bother to argue with you, Monica, is that there is a very obvious blockage in one who refuses so strongly to accept our planet in the moment. We all have this blockage from time to time, but you consistently act upon this same lack-of-acceptance here on these forums, and don't really engage anywhere else, so we just get stuck with the one Monica. And everyone wants to help her in their own way.

We are all co-creators, we chose to be here, this is a collective reality. Yes, factory farming is abhorrent, and needs to stop ASAP, but this is the reality we are in, and before we can do anything to truly change it, we must first accept it and love it. That's like rule #1. You must first crystallize the heart chakra before you can start utilizing the full power of the throat chakra.