(05-09-2015, 01:18 PM)Diana Wrote: Even if this is so, do you think beings in higher realms would DO what we do here to animals, each other? Do you think they would participate in cruelty just because, oh everything is harmonious? This is the point for goodness sake. Everything may be as it should be as the New Agers say, but that is a different concept than participation in 3D madness and cruelty.
Higher beings (or however you want to phrase that) may accept everything as the OIC, but would they harm others because all is accepted? Would they participate in wars and kill people and destroy life forms because of some stupid power-engorged government? And if they would... why? Just because it's there?
Do you think those of Ra would come here and just indulge in whatever is done here because oh well, that's what they do here?
What everyone does, matters. To say everything is the OIC is one-dimensional at best. What would be the point of it all? The OIC wants to experience itself? That's not enough and it does not explain why every human has an innate desire, however it manifests in their consciousness, to better themselves, evolve, to walk a path. Why do so many here at B4 think they are from 6D? Why would they care at all if not for the innate urge to advance? Perhaps you may see it as the simple concept of remerging with the OIC. But if this is true, then what's in it for the OIC? As all the parts if itself come back, hasn't the journey meant something? Would it be so simple that everything was experienced? That's not possible within the concept of infinity. So the sum of experience would be finite, and thus have a unique totality derived from the experiences accumulated. If the remerging with OIC is infinite, randomly experiencing anything and everything, the idea of that just pisses me off, and seems entirely selfish on the part of the OIC (if there is one). What would be the point of growing and learning and taking responsibility and all that jazz? Maybe it's all just nothing and the atheists are correct. It's the same as saying it's all everything. Infinite everything/nothing.
Densities mean nothing, it is about seeking lessons. If Ra comes here, it is to be veiled and forget what he knows of himself to obtain a new perspective of the whole which can include meat-eating for all I know. Veiling ourselves in a meat-eating planet seems indirectly about doing it at least for some time.
About what you said of the OIC :
Quote:Questioner: Now, I understand that the first distortion of intelligent infinity is the distortion of what we call free will. Can you give me a definition of this distortion?
Ra: I am Ra. In this distortion of the Law of One it is recognized that the Creator will know Itself.
This is what allows existence, this is why we are here. Would you prefer empty void rather than that the Creator will know Itself? We are manyness, exploring infinite point of views of the Creator of Itself through infinite self and other-selves. This is what we are, this is the purpose of existence in itself. We could've remained rocks or just elements or even massless particles or void, but we're ever evolving toward new kind of experiences and all that happens is part of that.
Reality exists for us to learn from it, not for us to to make it alike how we currently are. Althought doing so can still be part of a catalyst for self and other-selves but it is an impossible road that can only either be a never-ending effort for all of eternity or eventually end in acceptance fo the whole.