(04-07-2015, 09:25 PM)Parsons Wrote: You think that you are addressing that quote but in my opinion you really aren't logically addressing what they (Ra) said at all.
Our understandings of the Ra Material are wildly different (especially the concepts of STS/STO and the concept of will). I have attempted to explain my viewpoint and point out the numerous logical holes in your argument, but to fill in those holes, you either greatly twist Ra's words or simply insert your own viewpoint which has no logical basis in the material.
I don't see any reason to continue this conversation because of a complete lack of common ground
I would say those exact words back to you.
Edit: No, actually, I retract my above statement. I can't say your logic is flawed or that you are twisting Ra's words, because you actually haven't even said enough for me to assess your logic or views.
A discussion is an exchange of ideas. If you disagree with my ideas, then why not offer some of your own? But you have done very little of that. You have said very little to counter my ideas, and you haven't bothered to point out any 'flaws' in my logic.
It's easy to tell someone "You are twisting Ra's words" without bothering to specify what exactly is being twisted, and without offering an alternative interpretation.
It's easy to tell someone "Your logic is flawed" without bothering to provide, point-by-point, a logical assessment and offering a superior illustration of logic. You haven't provided a detailed analysis; you've only made a few comments here and there saying that my view is wrong, but have said very little to explain why it's wrong. In fact, you haven't even demonstrated any logic skills at all, so quite frankly, I have no reason to think that you're even qualified to assess my logic!
If my logic is flawed, then show me where it is flawed. You haven't done that at all.
Actually, no one has.
You can disagree with me all you want, but if you're going to make accusations like "your logic is flawed" and "you're twisting Ra's words" without backing them up, then you aren't really contributing to the discussion.
It's fine to disagree on interpretation. But in a discussion, if you think someone's logic is flawed, and you have superior logic skills, then SHOW US WHY by providing a point-by-point, logical discourse. If you can't do that, fine, but then don't expect them to take your comments seriously, if you can't even back them up.
You haven't backed up your accusations.
Therefore, your comments don't appear to be an effort to communicate; they appear to be just empty insults.