03-27-2015, 11:07 PM
Quote:Questioner: Do I understand, then, that death, whether it is by natural means or accidental means or suicide, that all deaths of this type would create the same after-death condition which would avail the entity to its protection from friends? Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. We presume you mean to inquire whether in the death experience, no matter what the cause, the negative friends are not able to remove an entity. This is correct largely because the entity without the attachment to the space/time physical complex is far more aware and without the gullibility which is somewhat the hallmark of those who love wholeheartedly.
However, the death, if natural, would undoubtedly be the more harmonious; the death by murder being confused and the entity needing some time/space in which to get its bearings, so to speak; the death by suicide causing the necessity for much healing work and, shall we say, the making of a dedication to the third-density for the renewed opportunity of learning the lessons set by the higher self.
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N: What happens to persons who have crises in their life?
I am Latwii. I am aware of your question. The nature of the events following the premature ending of a life by conscious act or suicide are various, depending upon the state of mind and basic vibration of the entity. However, there are some common problems with this action. That is, the removal of the entity from the life experience it was unable to finish then causes this same entity to at some point re-travel the same path in another attempt to finish the life experience begun but not ended. However, because of the trauma of the physical death it is more difficult to solve the life experience upon the rerun, shall we say. This is perhaps the most salient, common experience associated with this action.
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Quote:Carla: Could you comment on suicide?
I am Latwii, and am aware not only of your query but of your concern. This subject is one which has many ramifications, as you would expect, for the taking of one’s own life in a conscious fashion is but a most distorted means of making a transition from your current illusion to the next, for each entity within your illusion shall at some point leave it. The choice to leave shall be made in most cases on the subconscious level, there having been the completion of the tasks set out or sufficient completion to warrant such transition. In some cases there is the need to regroup, shall we say, for the lessons have become somewhat a heavy burden and there was perhaps the biting off of more than could be chewn—we correct this instrument—than could be successfully chewed. The word still sounds funny—we shall continue, nevertheless.
In the case of the suicide, the choice to leave the incarnation and the illusion is made upon the conscious level, yet is made with a consciousness which has become distorted by the difficulties which are presented to it. In most cases the taking of one’s own life in such a conscious fashion cuts short that which remained full of potential, and therefore the entity so leaving finds the need within its own being to recommit itself to the illusion which was so abruptly left.
Quote:You’re saying, then, that there are balanced suicides, are you
not?
I am Q’uo, and we mean to leave the room for the
possibilities that in some cases this is so. However, in
the general run of the third-density incarnational
experience, your assumption concerning the nature
of the taking of one’s own life is correct in that it is a
partaking in that separation of self from the
incarnation which reflects the path of that which is
not, and this path in its final form pulls that which is
and there must eventually be the balanced point of
view which the building of the karmic momentum
will necessitate within a future.
Quote:C: It seems that more and more who experience depression never really come out. People in such a state have turned to suicide, various other methods of totally escaping from the illusion. How may one best aid someone, who has gone to such an extreme, to stay?
I am Latwii, and am aware of your query, my brother. The aid that might be given to such an entity is an aid which can only point in the direction of the inward search. Each entity making that journey inward, whatever the motivation, shall find two paths, either of which might be chosen. There is that path that leads toward the light. This path looks at all which surround it—correction—looks at all which surrounds the entity as an opportunity to grow in understanding, and to use the illusion as a tool for evolution, and this path requires a certain maturity, as you are aware. It is a path frequently not chosen.
The other path which an entity discovers within is that path which you have called the escape. The escape from the illusion, the escape from the lessons, the escape from the ability to respond to the challenge. To aid an entity who has chosen this path most efficiently, we might suggest the recounting of those times within the past of your own being in which you have encountered the difficulties, and share your point of view as to how these difficulties aided your own growth. By providing an example or a pattern, if you will, to such an entity, you might once again allow the entity to see some glimmer of light, and to turn its feet to another path.
Quote:I had several years of psychiatric therapy during and after the time of Don’s
illness and death in 1984. At the time, we were both going through what I
could roughly call nervous breakdowns or depressions. The difference
between us was our level of trust in others and our willingness to listen to
the people trying to help us. I survived. Don descended into madness and
committed suicide. I know he felt this was the “right” thing for him to do.
In my heartfelt opinion, suicide is never a good idea. While I can well
understand the despair and sense of unbearable pressure that make people
turn to ending it all, suicide dœs not end anything except the present life
and the opportunities for learning within this incarnation. In Illusions,
Richard Bach said, more or less, that if we are alive, we still have a mission
to complete and it is not time to leave. I agree. When it’s time for us to
move on, the Creator will take us on to larger life. I am aware of the
rationalizations for suicide for people who wish to die with dignity. And in
a sense, it is not my business what people besides myself do. I would not
judge a person harshly for choosing to end her life. I would feel, however,
that she had made an unwise decision. I know what it is like to survive the
suicide of a loved one. In my case, there ensued six tremendously painful
years during which I aively wanted to die, myself, for the omissions and
commissions of things said and left unsaid that contributed to Don’s
despair.
Quote:The most likely culprit in the root-ray or red energy center is the self’s basic opinion of the self as being either a deserving portion or an undeserving portion of the creation. Those who are harboring depressed thoughts and thoughts of suicide, for instance, will block almost all energy coming into the body system.
Quote:A good example of this is the feelings of family in the event of suicide. Even those who are not related to the family member but were friends will consider to themselves immediately upon hearing of the demise of such an entity in suicide all of the things that could have been done had the person realized in what bad shape the entity was. Even though the entity has moved on and nothing can be done these phantom feelings are very real and must be dealt with as though they had something to do with consensus reality.
Quote:May we say to you that lives, as you know them,
whether long or short, by any standards, are in a
certain pattern, which you have chosen before you
enter into the pattern. As a result of going from the
beginning to the end of this pattern, your spirit
hopes that it will have learned certain lessons, and
thus have improved and defined the vibration which
is its essence in the sphere of eternity in which all of
you truly glow.
When one contemplates and then does that which is
known as suicide, one cuts short before the natural
end the time of learning, and more often than not
the lessons which that soul had hoped to learn had
not been learned. Consequently, it is often so that
rather than alleviating karma, the action of taking
one’s life adds more karma to the burden which is
already carried and which you are trying to discharge
by the expression which is the lifetime which you are
now living.
Thus, when you reenter incarnation you have not
only the original lesson to relearn but an additional
severity to that lesson which is brought on by that
pain which you have caused to those who you have
previously left. Many times this type of karma is
alleviated by the total forgiveness of those whom you
have hurt.
However, it is simply desirable to live until it is time
for your lesson to be through, for your burdens to be
laid down. It is a truism, we are aware, but we must
repeat that you are not given those things which you
cannot bear. Thus, working through what is difficult
when you finished with a lifetime at its natural end,
whether it be short or long, you can then go on and
learn other perhaps more agreeable lessons in other
perhaps more agreeable spheres or vibrations.
If you may think of your existence as having a
natural rhythm and an ongoing purpose, perhaps it
will be easier for you to understand that suicide, as
you call it, is a stoppage of that rhythm in an
arbitrary manner. Instead, it is desirable to proceed
with the rhythm of your existence, always seeing the
many lessons that are about you and letting the
realization of love flow into you from the Father. If
you can keep these realizations before you, your life
in this realm and all others will be enjoyable and
fruitful. Does this answer your question?
Questioner: Yes, thank you.