03-19-2015, 11:32 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-19-2015, 01:33 PM by APeacefulWarrior.
Edit Reason: Moar researchings!
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(03-19-2015, 06:42 AM)andreazzi Wrote: They surely can, remember Yahweh? The 5D+ social memory complex from the Confederation, that was responsible for creating a 3D vehicle on Earth based upon Earth's genetic material, and afterwards Orion entities used the same identity to mix many STS oriented material in the fundamentals of our monotheistic religions.
To lie or to cheat is the main tool for negatively oriented entities, since they can't force any other entity to follow them, they must lure, attract, tease.
I just reread all of Ra's mentions of Yahweh. Interestingly, he was *quite* vague on how exactly the Orion entities went about subverting Yahweh's work. I don't believe he ever directly says one impersonated Yahweh. The story of how they misled Moses is similarly vague, and it's not even clear whose idea the Commandments actually were. Not to mention that "I am what I am" would be a great example of a statement that's technically true -not a lie- but hugely misleading.
I'm speaking much more literally here. Like, if someone found themselves talking to a 5D-neg entity of some form, could it actually say "Trust me, I'm positively-polarized! I loovvee helping other humans! Reeeaallly!!" There's a big difference, I think, between flat-out lying and merely being misleading. Otherwise, the concept of free will would be something of a joke, if a high-density negative could freely lie through its proverbial teeth to less-dense beings.
Like, does a four-year-old believe in Santa Claus of her own free will? I'd say a very strong argument for "no" could be made. She believes in Santa because her parents lied to her, and she's not wise enough to see alternatives to the lies. And the cognitive gap between a 5D or 6D negative and a 3D or 4D human would probably be wider than that between a child and an adult.
Maybe I'll go browse through his comments about the Orion group some more and look for methodology...
EDIT: OK, this is actually a bit funny. The word "lie" only appears once in the Orion discussions (12.15), and Ra is referring to the Crusaders: "the crusaders, who in this case, do not find it necessary to lie." In context, he's talking about the Orion group sending visions of doom to prophets. And, well, that's not exactly a lie - doom could always occur, potentially. Otherwise, he never directly uses the word "lie" in conjunction with the Orion group or other negative-polarities, just words like "manipulate."
This isn't exactly proof that they can't lie openly, but it would seem to suggest to me that they, at least, prefer not to.