02-25-2015, 08:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-25-2015, 10:21 PM by indolering.)
(02-25-2015, 08:06 AM)Raz Wrote: How can you think about truth? You can think only about something you already know. Thinking can exist only within the boundary of the known. Truth is not known yet - how can you think about the unknown? The unknown cannot be thought about, the unknown has to be experienced.
But people go on thinking about truth, about God, about love. People go on thinking about things which have to be experienced and not thought about. But you have been told, "Become great thinkers and you will attain to truth." And a thinker is just a bio-computer, a thinker is never original.
-Rajneesh
I find Osho rather derivative, and sometimes confusing or even misleading, only occasionally using original metaphors or insights. I'm somewhat biased, I admit, having been through a cult of personality with another teacher from India, a myopic obsession I now sincerely regret. I learned some things, true enough - but I feel my progress was severely hampered by this relationship which lasted for far longer than I care to remember.
As I stated in another thread, I believe the guru/chela relationship can be wholly positive, leading the disciple to the sacred temple in the heart where the Creator can be known. But the guru must be a realized soul himself before he can assume the service of spiritual master. If one has not attained to the highest realm of spiritual light, he may teach students in various disciplines but he is not authorized (realized) to profess the ability to offer the supreme vision of the Creator; this special service is reserved for those who are traditionally known as a Satguru. To be sure, there are many impostors around, but it's my conclusion that the Creator has decreed that at least one Satguru be alive on Earth at all times should there be a need for such a one.
Many people, it seems, find fulfillment in teachers like Osho which is fine - I can think of worse role models. Generally speaking, the relationship is limited and temporary because the soul always yearns to reunite with its Source.
Osho seems like an ok guy, despite the negative, criminal behavior emanating from within the hierarchy. Personally, there are a few with whom I resonate...Yogananda, Ramakrishna, Guru Nanak, Kabir, Alan Watts, a few others....
What I like about the thread is that it reminds us of some of the timeless teachings of the spiritual path.
Angelique w/Peter Gabriel - Salala
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PzeV4iPO9g
Peter Gabriel & Robert Fripp