07-21-2010, 09:48 PM
(07-20-2010, 10:59 PM)unity100 Wrote: what is important is not what is there, or what is all that 'there' is, but, what are you yourself. therein lies the unique facet of existence that needs to be discovered, and then brought into the light of day to radiate to existence. and it will eventually have to be discovered, if it is not discovered now and here. probably no one will be return to 'all that there is', before totally discovering what that is there in their own selves. that is the whole point of this creation and manifesting as multiple entities in the first place anyway.
I assert that "what are you yourself" and "all that there is" are two equivalent concepts. It's much like saying, "GLB" and "Awesomeness". One can be substituted for the other without loss of meaning. : )
Seriously, I do think they the two concepts you juxtaposed are, ultimately, saying the same thing. Ra says as much:
"You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One."
According to my theoretical (not experiential) understanding, when one dismantles the veil or releases all illusions or dissolves all boundaries or loses/surrenders the separate self - the personality self is not erased but, to whatever extent the structure remains, it is made entirely and visibly transparent to the One within, it is not perceived as being apart or separate from all that there is, because everything is understood to be "Self", nothing is seen as being "other than" Self.
Following is what I consider to be the single most illuminating analogy illustrating the strange relationship between relative and absolute truth, their seeming difference and their unbroken unity. It is taken from an interview between Shambhala Sun magazine and Ken Wilber, philosopher extraordinaire.
Quote:Sun: So the eye of contemplation is capable of disclosing absolute truth or Emptiness, whereas the eye of mind and the eye of flesh can disclose only relative truth and conventional realities.
KW: Yes, I think that is a fair summary of what are after all some very complex issues.
The traditional analogy is the ocean and its waves... (snip). The wetness of the water is Suchness (or Spirit). All waves are equally wet. One wave isn’t wetter than another. And thus, if I discover the wetness of any wave, I have discovered the wetness of all. When I directly recognize Suchness or Emptiness, or the wetness of my own being, right here, right now, then I have discovered the ultimate truth of all other waves as well. Emptiness is not a Really Big Wave set apart from little waves, but is the wetness equally present in all waves, high or low, big or small, sacred or profane -- which is why Emptiness cannot be used to prefer one wave or another.
Enlightenment is thus not catching a really big wave, but noticing the already present wetness of whatever wave I’m on. Moreover, I am then radically liberated from the narrow identification with this little wave called me, because I am fundamentally one with all other waves -- no wetness is outside of me. I am literally One Taste with the entire ocean and all its waves. And that taste is wetness, suchness, Emptiness, the utter transparency of the Great Perfection.
At the same time, I do not know all the details of all the other waves: their height, their weight, the number of them, and so on. These relative truths I will have to discover wave by wave, endlessly. No Sutra of Wetness will tell about that, nor could it. And no Tantra of the soggy will clue me in on this.
In wetness,
GLB
Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi