07-16-2010, 06:35 PM
Unity I won't respond directly to your last message to me. I'm afraid your starting point, that intelligent infinity is a subset of infinity, is to me an assumption. I don't know that. If you call infinity a subset of intelligence you will also end up with a working model. We need something to distinguish the applicability of the models. As it stands, I don't think you can know that. Unless you have something to back it up. In the context of this discussion even revelation would suffice. (Though I think I would desire to explore the experience first) I consider that you're describing a rational model of how you feel it must be. But at this point I just cannot follow you there. Sorry.
That's how I understand it works.
We do exist everywhere and everywhen at once. Our identification with the 3d body causes it to be active to us. We can thus use it directly. The other bodies do exist. But inactivity means we can only access those through the subconscious. In ways that priests, magi and shamen have done through the ages.
If you look at the various religious systems you can see they focus on different levels of consciousness to work with. Some go only one or two steps beyond the common city block consciousness. Others like Buddhism go all the way. And some are more political and really don't get you anywhere except for a theological straightjacket.
Precisely
But I get unity a bit better now I think. I think he uses a different approach, and this is reflected in his choice of words. Unity am I correct in assuming that your identification lies in the direct experience? While I would suggest that we do experience a lot of 4,5,6,7 and 8 density experiences already we just do not recognize them as such. I do understand how one would say considering yourself 4th density now is meaningless. If you seek the precise experience we have of 3d but then in 4d. That is meaningless. It is as meaningless as trying to access the dream body from a waking state. If it is not accessible there, it might as well not exist there.
(07-16-2010, 04:27 PM)Poffo Wrote:Yes, that's what I'm getting at Poffo(07-16-2010, 09:01 AM)unity100 Wrote: you do not exist in all densities all at once.
The illusion is that we don't exist in all densites all at once, but in reality (which is UNreal to us) we do, as the singular One, because there aren't actually any finite divisions between density levels. They all blend together just as in their physical analog of the visible light spectrum.
That's how I understand it works.We do exist everywhere and everywhen at once. Our identification with the 3d body causes it to be active to us. We can thus use it directly. The other bodies do exist. But inactivity means we can only access those through the subconscious. In ways that priests, magi and shamen have done through the ages.
If you look at the various religious systems you can see they focus on different levels of consciousness to work with. Some go only one or two steps beyond the common city block consciousness. Others like Buddhism go all the way. And some are more political and really don't get you anywhere except for a theological straightjacket.
Quote:So, indeed, you don't exist in all densities from the limited 3rd density point of view, but that doesn't negate the idea that the TRUE you, the One Infinite Creator, is indeed inhabiting all densities at once.
Precisely
But I get unity a bit better now I think. I think he uses a different approach, and this is reflected in his choice of words. Unity am I correct in assuming that your identification lies in the direct experience? While I would suggest that we do experience a lot of 4,5,6,7 and 8 density experiences already we just do not recognize them as such. I do understand how one would say considering yourself 4th density now is meaningless. If you seek the precise experience we have of 3d but then in 4d. That is meaningless. It is as meaningless as trying to access the dream body from a waking state. If it is not accessible there, it might as well not exist there.