07-15-2010, 09:14 AM
i dont want to continue this discussion, because we discussed it many times, and it will become just a repetition of those discussions. however, i will state a few important points and leave this train of thought. there are many sub points in people's posts, and if i get into each, each of those have the potential of going towards full fledged topics itself, as far as i can see.
infinity has to be infinite in every aspect. this needing to be infinite is not limited to physical or dimensional characteristics. i am never discussing infinity with ascribing it only such characteristics, when i say infinite, i mean infinite in every way. this also means that, there is only one infinity that is possible, and anything that is a differentiation out of it, has to be different from it. because, if anything different from it would retain the same properties, it would be the same infinity, and nothing else. therefore, this makes infinite intelligence, and the chain starting from it, different from infinity. when they again complete to infinity - and this includes infinite intelligence, aka god - they again all together become just infinity, and there will only be infinity again.
conclusively, nothing different from infinity itself, can express, contain (in every sense) or manifest or become in any way analogous with infinity. to be infinite, things need to be infinite, and when they are infinite, there is only one infinity, and it is, well, the infinity we name. all the conclusions that follow behind come as a result of this, like how a negative cant go on after 6th density. it cannot force infinity to merge into itself, it has to merge into infinite.
on holograms, fractals, fractal universes - universes are just the physical manifestation nodules, units we know. they are by no means the entirety of infinity, or, its subset, infinite intelligence. it is highly possible that an infinite array of manifestation methods, possibilities and physicalities exist. i am taking these into account while pondering infinity. therefore, i am just analyzing it in logic terms; infinity or its subsets. one should not err in that point by thinking 'logic cannot etc', because the very conclusion of Law of One, is created with the same kind of logic -> there is one, therefore everything that exists is one. (as subsets of a greater whole). actually even more possibly, anything that we observe and know in this universe as anything, is probably contained within the set of universal rules this universe's central logos set for this universe. this includes physical as well as the rules and concepts that exist for time/space and all relevant manifestations. (physical or astral or so on).
as for the 'hierarchy/priority/whatever' of infinity, infinite intelligence and as such, well, whatever you name or take it as, such a thing exists. else, ra wouldnt have described the manifestation of the creation as such. ra would just say 'there is infinity. everything exists' and cut it. but they didnt. instead, it is described that first thing existing is infinity, second conscious infinity, aka infinite intelligence, and all the others start to come into being through distortions after this. it doesnt matter whether this may be related to time, priority, etc. what matters is, as Ra tells us, such a thing, exists. infinite intelligence cannot replace for infinity, intelligent energy cannot replace for infinite intelligence and so on.
at this point, i very much think, intelligent infinity having no polarization should be the thing we are concentrating at. it is quite important. when you add that Ra also says they are seeking without polarization, it becomes important as to understand the real nature of existence.
infinity has to be infinite in every aspect. this needing to be infinite is not limited to physical or dimensional characteristics. i am never discussing infinity with ascribing it only such characteristics, when i say infinite, i mean infinite in every way. this also means that, there is only one infinity that is possible, and anything that is a differentiation out of it, has to be different from it. because, if anything different from it would retain the same properties, it would be the same infinity, and nothing else. therefore, this makes infinite intelligence, and the chain starting from it, different from infinity. when they again complete to infinity - and this includes infinite intelligence, aka god - they again all together become just infinity, and there will only be infinity again.
conclusively, nothing different from infinity itself, can express, contain (in every sense) or manifest or become in any way analogous with infinity. to be infinite, things need to be infinite, and when they are infinite, there is only one infinity, and it is, well, the infinity we name. all the conclusions that follow behind come as a result of this, like how a negative cant go on after 6th density. it cannot force infinity to merge into itself, it has to merge into infinite.
on holograms, fractals, fractal universes - universes are just the physical manifestation nodules, units we know. they are by no means the entirety of infinity, or, its subset, infinite intelligence. it is highly possible that an infinite array of manifestation methods, possibilities and physicalities exist. i am taking these into account while pondering infinity. therefore, i am just analyzing it in logic terms; infinity or its subsets. one should not err in that point by thinking 'logic cannot etc', because the very conclusion of Law of One, is created with the same kind of logic -> there is one, therefore everything that exists is one. (as subsets of a greater whole). actually even more possibly, anything that we observe and know in this universe as anything, is probably contained within the set of universal rules this universe's central logos set for this universe. this includes physical as well as the rules and concepts that exist for time/space and all relevant manifestations. (physical or astral or so on).
as for the 'hierarchy/priority/whatever' of infinity, infinite intelligence and as such, well, whatever you name or take it as, such a thing exists. else, ra wouldnt have described the manifestation of the creation as such. ra would just say 'there is infinity. everything exists' and cut it. but they didnt. instead, it is described that first thing existing is infinity, second conscious infinity, aka infinite intelligence, and all the others start to come into being through distortions after this. it doesnt matter whether this may be related to time, priority, etc. what matters is, as Ra tells us, such a thing, exists. infinite intelligence cannot replace for infinity, intelligent energy cannot replace for infinite intelligence and so on.
at this point, i very much think, intelligent infinity having no polarization should be the thing we are concentrating at. it is quite important. when you add that Ra also says they are seeking without polarization, it becomes important as to understand the real nature of existence.