(07-15-2010, 05:18 AM)seejay21 Wrote: Here we are, all of us, thinking to ourselves, or are we? Could the thoughts we have separately but simultaneously actually be from one thought divided? Where is the proof? The only thing that I can think of that goes towards proof is that we have emotions that we can all agree on. We have given words to identify these emotions.
It is exactly that, one thought, but not divided (this implies separation), more so a subset, the 'hierarchy' of the Logos of thought/consciousness, one stemming from the other.
seejay21 Wrote:Where do the emotions come from? I propose that our emotional states come from one conscious thought shared amongst us. The thought manifest itself in us as emotions, giving evidence that there is only one of us, which leads to intelligent infinity.
From my understanding, emotions are different vibrational levels, just as the colours of the rainbow. Depending on our state of mind, we operate (within different life contexts of course) at particular levels of vibration (from fear to love). The level we vibrate at not only attracts us more of the same, but it is the point of generation of our thoughts, which are then put through filters and patterns we have constructed through our years of experience. Hence, when in a state of fear, thoughts and decisions are created that reflect that level. The same goes for love, and everything in between.
We all tap into the same 'pot' of emotion, just as the colours you see all stem from the same spectral vibration. The same with taste, sound, touch, everything. All various levels of energy, vibrating at different frequencies'.
Edit: this is why I consider the jump to 4D to be so incredible; the entire nature/laws of the density are changing.
Imagine a graph, with time along the bottom (x), and emotional level on the side (y). As one moves through life, their emotions fluctuate, so they will flow along the time axis, making wave patterns. We all do this concurrently, on the same graph. We share the levels. This also explains when you are with someone you 'click' with, you may think the same kind of thoughts. You are on very similar vibrational levels.
Ali Quadir Wrote:Maybe the mistake is that an apple is a finite entity. It's not, not in a holographic sense, not in a quantum mechanical sense, not in a spiritual sense. It is only finite in the classical mechanical sense.
In fact finiteness doesn't actually exist in reality. Finiteness exists wherever there exists information. An actual object is infinite in too many ways. It is for example spread out across the totality of space. It has for example infinite microcosms inside of it. It is interacting with other objects in the universe in infinite even if subtle ways.
Agreed. The rational mind likes to consider all things finite as they are easier to understand, measure and quantify. This approach is very useful in the Newtonian mindset, i.e. planning the slingshot approach of a satellite around a planet, but fails to grasp metaphysical/philosophical principles with regard to consciousness and existence.
It is a shame that, back in the days of our leaps in scientific understanding, science and spirituality were indefinitely separated and considered mutually exclusive of each other (it was actually against the law to do so). This hindered the evolution of consciousness on our planet for centuries, and still is a major factor in the way this world generates conflict and disharmony within itself.
Science and spirituality are two sides fo the same coin, and from a balanced perspective, understanding both gives one much ability to understand the whole experience of life.
unity100 Wrote:even in your example, however it would be impossible to analyze infinity with holographic projections and thoughts, still the apple inside that tree cannot encompass and summarize the entire apple+tree.
One should avoid stating what is impossible, as that is a personal mindset limited to subjective (and current) understanding. Many great discoveries and inventions emerge from considering the 'impossible'.
unity100 Wrote:it may be a microcosm in itself and go infinitely towards into own self, but still it cannot encompass the tree and itself at the same time
That is the exact nature of a fractal, and it is becoming widely accepted that is entire universe is that of a fractal hologram. The book, The Holographic Universe (Michael Talbot), is of incredible value. Highly recommended.
Many other channeled entities discuss the nature of the universe, Bashar in particular. Also invaluable.
GLB Wrote:How about this? Infinity (intelligent or otherwise) is trans-conceptual. Meaning that it goes beyond all intellectual conception - all POSSIBLE conception - even beyond the definitions of those of us who may be hell-bent on defining it in absolute, conceptual terms. (I won't mention any names... because Unity100 knows who he is.)
I think brother, the word is ineffable (which I seem to recall you using in another thread recently)...
Quote:Ineffable: Incapable of being expressed; indescribable or unutterable
One could consider trying to describe intelligent infinity from the perspective of a third density mindset, ineffable (although very intellectually stimulating) :¬)
Peace brothers.