(10-23-2014, 05:45 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: ...and so it is possible that Ra means that among wanderers, those groups are the ones who will understand. I don't think this implies that no one else would understand outside of wanderers.
...I think it could be pretty likely that Ra is referring to the material they are transmitting as a whole.
When I read it these were both my immediate impressions, though I see what you mean about their being much debate.
(10-23-2014, 05:45 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: Seems like plenty of evidence, yeah? Despite all of that, I just don't feel it. But there is something I do feel.
Yes it does seem like a tremendous amount of evidence Though from what you have said regarding the dual-activated bodies, this would also make a lot of sense, now for a question regarding this topic...
(10-23-2014, 05:45 PM)Law_of_one Wrote: 63.14 ↥ Questioner: You are saying, then, that for the transition from third to fourth density for one of the entities with doubly activated bodies, in order to make the transition the third-density body will go through the process of what we call death. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. The third and fourth, combination, density’s body will die according to the necessity of third-density mind/body/spirit complex distortions.
We may respond to the heart of your questioning by noting that the purpose of such combined activation of mind/body/spirit complexes is that such entities, to some extent, consciously are aware of those fourth-density understandings which third density is unable to remember due to the forgetting. Thus fourth-density experience may be begun with the added attraction, to an entity oriented towards service to others, of dwelling in a troubled third-density environment and offering its love and compassion.
63.17 ↥ Questioner: Is the reason that they can do this and the fifth- and sixth-density Wanderers who are here cannot do it the fact that they have the fourth-density body in activation?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Wanderers are third-density activated in mind/body/spirit and are subject to the forgetting which can only be penetrated with disciplined meditation and working.
When Ra states that wanderers having only their third-density mind/body/spirit complexes activated and therefore the forgetting can only be penetrated with disciplined meditation and working, does Ra mean, meditation and working is needed just to realize that they are wanderers and to realize the larger picture i.e. All of the Law of One material, or penetrate the forgetting in the sense of being able to do things like "bending spoons" and seeing energy/working with energy like is suggested in the next line of questioning in that session. Basically my question is - does penetrating the forgetting simply mean to realize who you are and understand the Law of One material and know these things in your heart, or does penetrating the forgetting mean to be able to work with energy/bend spoons and manifest fourth dimensional workings
(10-23-2014, 05:45 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: But I am happy to see in most people who identify as a wanderer the attitude that this information is relatively unimportant in comparison to the deeper spiritual truths. Of course, it can be fun to know, and even more it can offer a type of comfort, context, and inspiration which will allow wanderers to fulfill their mission and share love, but the ultimate nature of a wanderer is the same as that of a 3rd density native – the One Infinite Creator.
Well said, and I feel that is the consensus here
That is it though, my drive for knowing is that it would offer me context and inspiration, I think it would aid me in fulfilling my mission here, being able to draw strength from my origin. Though, regardless of my status, I will always have that attitude inside me and It will be my "placebo" - my mission remains the same. My focus will always be on the One Infinite Creator.