10-20-2014, 12:51 PM
(10-20-2014, 07:09 AM)Shemaya Wrote: Veganism is an ideology that appeases the guilt Westerner's have for stealing the land and resources of our 3rd world neighbors. Wrong on every level of what is good, noble and true. Veganism as a moral standard will just assist the STS agenda, and that ( profit driven corporate takeover) needs to STOP asap or the world is going to suffer immensely.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How anyone could come to that conclusion is utterly amazing.
I don't even know what to say...
Okay, maybe I can think of something.

1. Meat-eaters.
Best case scenario: raise your own animals and treat them well. But still, you are going to kill them for food (I'll address chickens in a moment). They may be loved (which I find a little creepy knowing you are going to eat them later, but that's just me), they may roam free in your yard (but they are not really free to live their natural animals lives); and then you or someone else slaughters them for food, and let's face it, they don't want to die. As for chickens and those who raise them just for eggs, it's a pretty gentle way to obtain animal protein, but the chickens still aren't really free to live naturally. And, the fact is, humans don't NEED animal protein.
Worst case scenario: support the torture and slaughter of animals. Unbound spelled out his unique ways and reasons for why he consumes meat, and I respect what he is trying to do. But I think he is unique, and it would take a very advanced person indeed, to REALLY overcome the pain, fear, and horror in the meat industry when consuming its products. I simply do not agree that one can support the system by buying its products, and then neutralize the effects of it—inhumane torture and cruelty plus greed—by saying thank you or what ever prayer one says. I am not saying it has no effect, but let's get real here and weigh things in the balance. And you can't get past this central point: if you buy the meat, you support the industry.
2. Vegans.
Vegans don't support the industries of torturing and slaughtering animals for food they don't need.
Vegans recognize the rights of animals. They do not think obvious torture and horrifically slaughtering animals in fear is good. The one thing vegans could be accused of sometimes, depending who is referenced, is being overzealous—because they are so heartbroken and appalled at what is being done to animals.
Notwithstanding the fact that the above is my take on the situation, how could anyone twist the vegan movement into something that supports STS?