10-02-2014, 05:26 PM
(10-02-2014, 05:05 PM)Unbound Wrote: That is perfectly fair and I agree. However, we who have the capacity for higher choice, we also are caretakers of the other humans who are not making more conscious choices, yes?
That's kinda tricky, because of free will.
If I see a human in need, I help if I can (examples: I usually keep cash in my car for those on the street corners asking for help. I have helped many friends and acquaintances financially when needed. I donate to the homeless.)
But to control humans is not possible. Setting an example is the only way I see. And I have seen that work in my own life.
Regarding the subject of eating animals, we have a conflict between helping suffering (factory farms) and human free will. This forum is literally the only place I have had these discussions with strangers, because it is a forum of spiritually minded individuals and the subject matter is presented to be discussed. Otherwise, I don't hide from what I am but I don't ask others to join me. Here, I hope I am seen as just giving my opinions, which are sometimes backed by facts (as we perceive them).
Giving voice to animal suffering is similar to the examples I gave above of helping humans, to me. But certainly there is a line that is sometimes crossed when trying to abolish suffering, such as protecting children from pedophiles who also have free will. I wish I could control human behavior sometimes (and then I come back to my senses

