In regards to eating meat

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Everytime you cut down a forest in the interest of the Agriculture you are contributing to the Demise of the Earth. Agriculture is not in alignment with the Earth System. What is in alignment is Permaculture food producing forests that are ecologically diverse. This is the point I am making.

that is irrelevant to the spiritual question of removing another entity from physical plane to eat its body.

therefore i will take your arguments on their own angle and approach as thus, instead of taking spiritual aspect of the issue account. because, if one looks at it that way, s/he can even justify anything that exists in a given planet/society, on grounds of 'balance'. just because a balance exists, doesnt mean that it is something good.

first of all anything that can be conceived can be used for good ends, or evil ends. anything that can be conceived can be overused, overdone, and anything overdone can cause harm. it is not limited to agriculture.

it is possible to use arid, desert lands for agriculture, it is even possible to engage in agriculture without using any land at all, in hydroponic farms, even in space. there is no relevance in between agriculture and deforestation. deforestation happens, because there are economic or social elements in society choosing to go the easy way.

secondly, there is no fixed, defined, unchangeable 'earth system'. earth's ecology and biology was much different 100 million years earlier, it will be much much different 100 million years later -> that is, even if you start using desert, arid lands as agriculture, and this has an impact on overall earth ecology, that will result in a new system.

Think about it. Step outside of the Box that you define your eating proclivities by and see it from the perspective of the Earth.

let me put it this way :

any given entity, system, planet, solar system, galaxy, universe is in a state of balance at any given point. anything unbalanced gets into some kind of balance as soon as possible. balance exists everywhere.

if we take your balance approach, and assume that any given balance is a good thing, then there is absolutely no reason, or no logic in changing any given balance, because, well, a balance is a good thing and it should stay.

this also gives the below conclusions :

it is bad to try to polarize positively. because, since even a mid 3d entity has a certain balance of chakras, mindset, and resulting violet ray, it already is in a certain balance. so, trying to change that balance, would only be bad.

it would be bad to try to remove blockages from chakras. because, any blockage removed, will result in a net change of balance.

it would be bad to try to change the society positively. because, well, after all, a balance already exists, right ? even if it is a medieval feudal system, there is still balance, things work. therefore, there is a closed system. trying to change it would be blasphemy, since, messing with balances is bad.

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in reality, the perspective of earth, is no different than the perspective of an entity in it.

just like how an entity on the earth tries to evolve towards light, going through evolutionary densities, and choosing a path, planets also choose paths (due to choices of those upon them, as Ra says, because a planet becoming a societal complex is only possible with the entities on it unifying in a common seeking), and they pass through densities.

just like how an entity opens 2, 3th chakras and moves on to open 4th, the planet opens its chakras with the entities upon it, and moves on to these densities.

or, the entities may polarize negatively, and push a planet to a negative continuum.

in either case, the spiritual and energetical position of the planet would change, and it would also affect the fauna, flora, ecology, society, anything in it.

it is not far fetched to understand that the conditions of ecology in a service to self world are much vile than one on a positively polarized, 2d chakra clean and clear world, because any kind of spiritual, mental intent and energy configuration has space/time effects.

I have lived very close to the Earth and in the past when I have been hungry in the middle of the winter when there are no apples or wild fruits to harvest... and animals have given themselves so that I may live and my family may live.

i think the animals would disagree, if they were able to.

Being an Omnivore does not mean I am any less Spiritual than you or that guy over there. Being an Omnivore and eating consciously is a middle path that I feel is in alignment with the Closed Loop system of the Earth.

with this approach, a negatively polarized service to self entity, or an unaligned 3d entity currently on the face of the planet can easily justify his/her position, saying that s/he is choosing a middle path, or the other path, because it is in alignment with the current spiritual climate or the societal structure of earth.

and again, 'closed loop' does not mean 'good'. there are closed energy loops on service to self planets. that doesnt make them good or acceptable.

What is better that Deer starve to death and then rot in the forest or for another to eat and be fed? What is better?

when i approach this from love angle, i find the above sentence even more unbearable and intolerable.

im imagining me or one of my loved ones in deer's shoes, and im finding them killed, eaten by another entity with various justifications. despite, us wanting to live.

what is better is, the deer not being killed in order to have its body eaten. with your justification we can also justify killing and eating of individuals who are very close to 2d consciousness but newly graduated into 3d. 'what is better - them living out their lives and dying in agony or starvation, or feeding someone else'.