09-26-2014, 09:05 PM
Um, no, I said it doesn't even feel natural to pick plant leaves, nor does killing any creature.
Also, why do you assume I have not ever considered those conditions or put myself in their state? It is because I have that I make the approach that I do, it is because I know the pain that I attempt to heal whatever I eat, plant or animal. You aren't even talking to me, you're having an imaginary conversation with some person in your mind whom you have demonized.
That I have not reached the same conclusion as you doesn't mean I haven't made the same considerations. I consider it very hurtful that you do not care about the state of the energy of the animal after it has died. I consider it bizarre that you would rather just have that life thrown to maggots rather than transmuted in to higher energy states and repairing of the dissonance still locked in the flesh.
I have never, at any point in this discussion, disagreed that the treatment of animals in many farming settings are heinous and atrocious.
Also, I hope you are indeed aware that your particular interpretation and understanding of STO/STS and the density of choice is not the only nor necessarily the "correct" one? (Not that I'm sure there is a correct one.)
STS is about control. You're trying to save the animals, but attempting to control humans as you do so. Sounds kind of STS to me. (Yes, that is sarcastic. Figure I should specify since everyone seems to take that s*** seriously.)
Unnecessary violence isn't really useful to either path.
Also, why do you assume I have not ever considered those conditions or put myself in their state? It is because I have that I make the approach that I do, it is because I know the pain that I attempt to heal whatever I eat, plant or animal. You aren't even talking to me, you're having an imaginary conversation with some person in your mind whom you have demonized.
That I have not reached the same conclusion as you doesn't mean I haven't made the same considerations. I consider it very hurtful that you do not care about the state of the energy of the animal after it has died. I consider it bizarre that you would rather just have that life thrown to maggots rather than transmuted in to higher energy states and repairing of the dissonance still locked in the flesh.
I have never, at any point in this discussion, disagreed that the treatment of animals in many farming settings are heinous and atrocious.
Also, I hope you are indeed aware that your particular interpretation and understanding of STO/STS and the density of choice is not the only nor necessarily the "correct" one? (Not that I'm sure there is a correct one.)
STS is about control. You're trying to save the animals, but attempting to control humans as you do so. Sounds kind of STS to me. (Yes, that is sarcastic. Figure I should specify since everyone seems to take that s*** seriously.)
Unnecessary violence isn't really useful to either path.