09-25-2014, 11:21 AM
Hi Account1,
You eliminated your most recent post, reducing it to an exclamation of frustration regarding the pointlessness of your attempt. If I may offer some feedback for future reference in approaching this or any community:
From square one, your thread started off on the wrong foot. (“Wrong” herein defined as not setting yourself up for what I believe (hope) was your greater objective, that being to achieve mutual understanding.)
Your thread title is, “Do you guys actually believe this stuff?” From the get go your implication is that the information is BS, so your question follows, “Why do you guys believe this bullshit?” You indicate that your mind is already made up, the case is already closed on this one.
You further reinforce this notion by profiling the “delusional” type of person who, in your mind, is either: a) drawn to this sort of information because of their delusional predispositions, or b) becomes delusional as a result of contact with this sort of information.
In turn, however, I think the community has been, much to my own pride, remarkably accommodating to your critique. Granted, the quality and depth of the replies vary, but each, for the most part, attempted to engage you with respect for your viewpoint, divergent though it may be from most of the board’s.
Maybe you could have yielded results more to your liking if you had switched tact and asked questions at a slightly different angle that conveys respect for the intelligence of those who, perplexing though it may be to you, actually “believe”, or gain value from, this information.
Suggestions for questions:
“Ra makes some unorthodox claims about Earth’s history, the paranormal, so-called spiritual evolution, alien civilizations, etc. Personally I find them difficult if not sometimes impossible to believe. How do you reconcile these claims in your own thinking?”
“Do you take this information to be literally true, metaphorically true, or other? How do you relate to this information? How do you situate it in your life? What about this information appeals to you?”
“How do you balance skepticism with an open-minded attitude?”
And the most important question that has escaped your awareness thus far:
“Of what value is this information to you? Has this been of benefit and if so, how?”
Regardless of what this information says on the subject of who built the pyramids and when, how the density systems work, and other aspects of what some of us have called the “space opera”, people have undergone genuine transformations thanks to the catalyst this information provided. I don’t mean transformations into the type of person you described previously – though those prone to mental imbalance can certainly springboard from this information as they can with other sources, spiritual or otherwise – but transformation into a more compassionate, a more forgiving, a more self-aware, a more responsible, and more service-oriented person.
Ever since the authors (whose integrity, btw, shines more brightly than any I’ve met), shared this information with the world, for free, it has changed lives. Not in great quantities, but to those for whom this material resonates, discovery of the Confederation philosophy has often been accompanied with profound openings to leading a more mature, more responsible, more heart-centered life.
Whether the *catalyst* to focus more strongly on love comes from Ra, or a Steven Spielberg movie, or a traumatic life incident, or an ayahuasca vision, or a loved one’s example, or the result of ones own internal process of reasoning, or a work of fiction or non, does it matter?
Of course ones worldview and the beliefs therein are of consequence, but so long as that which catalyzes change helps one to grow in an empowered, positive direction – with an awakening of the will to claim responsibility for ones own creation, and an aiming of the intentions upon love and service and self-knowledge – when and how the pyramids were built are of secondary, even tertiary importance, though nevertheless fascinating to consider.
There’s a quote in the Law of One, actually, that somewhat speaks to this thought of the proportional importance between a) the relative world of details and b) the ultimate, underlying, universal and ever-present truth from which we all spring, to which we will all return, and for which the awakened spiritual seeker (whether or not they use the Law of One material) yearns.
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=26.36
This is why we iterate quite often, when asked for specific information, that it pales to insignificance, just as the grass withers and dies while the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator redounds to the very infinite realms of creation forever and ever, creating and creating itself in perpetuity.
Why then be concerned with the grass that blooms, withers and dies in its season only to grow once again due to the infinite love and light of the One Creator? This is the message we bring. Each entity is only superficially that which blooms and dies. In the deeper sense there is no end to beingness.
With love/light,
GLB
You eliminated your most recent post, reducing it to an exclamation of frustration regarding the pointlessness of your attempt. If I may offer some feedback for future reference in approaching this or any community:
From square one, your thread started off on the wrong foot. (“Wrong” herein defined as not setting yourself up for what I believe (hope) was your greater objective, that being to achieve mutual understanding.)
Your thread title is, “Do you guys actually believe this stuff?” From the get go your implication is that the information is BS, so your question follows, “Why do you guys believe this bullshit?” You indicate that your mind is already made up, the case is already closed on this one.
You further reinforce this notion by profiling the “delusional” type of person who, in your mind, is either: a) drawn to this sort of information because of their delusional predispositions, or b) becomes delusional as a result of contact with this sort of information.
In turn, however, I think the community has been, much to my own pride, remarkably accommodating to your critique. Granted, the quality and depth of the replies vary, but each, for the most part, attempted to engage you with respect for your viewpoint, divergent though it may be from most of the board’s.
Maybe you could have yielded results more to your liking if you had switched tact and asked questions at a slightly different angle that conveys respect for the intelligence of those who, perplexing though it may be to you, actually “believe”, or gain value from, this information.
Suggestions for questions:
“Ra makes some unorthodox claims about Earth’s history, the paranormal, so-called spiritual evolution, alien civilizations, etc. Personally I find them difficult if not sometimes impossible to believe. How do you reconcile these claims in your own thinking?”
“Do you take this information to be literally true, metaphorically true, or other? How do you relate to this information? How do you situate it in your life? What about this information appeals to you?”
“How do you balance skepticism with an open-minded attitude?”
And the most important question that has escaped your awareness thus far:
“Of what value is this information to you? Has this been of benefit and if so, how?”
Regardless of what this information says on the subject of who built the pyramids and when, how the density systems work, and other aspects of what some of us have called the “space opera”, people have undergone genuine transformations thanks to the catalyst this information provided. I don’t mean transformations into the type of person you described previously – though those prone to mental imbalance can certainly springboard from this information as they can with other sources, spiritual or otherwise – but transformation into a more compassionate, a more forgiving, a more self-aware, a more responsible, and more service-oriented person.
Ever since the authors (whose integrity, btw, shines more brightly than any I’ve met), shared this information with the world, for free, it has changed lives. Not in great quantities, but to those for whom this material resonates, discovery of the Confederation philosophy has often been accompanied with profound openings to leading a more mature, more responsible, more heart-centered life.
Whether the *catalyst* to focus more strongly on love comes from Ra, or a Steven Spielberg movie, or a traumatic life incident, or an ayahuasca vision, or a loved one’s example, or the result of ones own internal process of reasoning, or a work of fiction or non, does it matter?
Of course ones worldview and the beliefs therein are of consequence, but so long as that which catalyzes change helps one to grow in an empowered, positive direction – with an awakening of the will to claim responsibility for ones own creation, and an aiming of the intentions upon love and service and self-knowledge – when and how the pyramids were built are of secondary, even tertiary importance, though nevertheless fascinating to consider.
There’s a quote in the Law of One, actually, that somewhat speaks to this thought of the proportional importance between a) the relative world of details and b) the ultimate, underlying, universal and ever-present truth from which we all spring, to which we will all return, and for which the awakened spiritual seeker (whether or not they use the Law of One material) yearns.
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=26.36
This is why we iterate quite often, when asked for specific information, that it pales to insignificance, just as the grass withers and dies while the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator redounds to the very infinite realms of creation forever and ever, creating and creating itself in perpetuity.
Why then be concerned with the grass that blooms, withers and dies in its season only to grow once again due to the infinite love and light of the One Creator? This is the message we bring. Each entity is only superficially that which blooms and dies. In the deeper sense there is no end to beingness.
With love/light,
GLB
Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi