Do you guys actually believe this stuff?

[zvonimir]

Isn't geometry a "non-physical" element of nature? For example, the molecule of chlorophyll only photosynthesizes when the atoms are arranged in a particular geometric pattern. What is the physical analog of the information/patterns which arises as geometry, where does that information begin?

your word echoes through my mind like sound from a crystal chalice

We can also ask ourselves : Why does a leaf on tree turns itself towards the Sun? and yet we acknowledge it as true without knowing what is it that moves it.

i know the answer to this question, but i cant measure it or spy on it with microscope and earthly tools,does this non provable fact denies itself?

i am greatefull for Account 1-s posts and when this debate ends i would like to hear some observations if it is possible on George Ivanovich Gurdjieff ,what ever you can share

be well Account 1 I look forward to your thoughts whether I agree or disagree