Do you guys actually believe this stuff?

[Parsons]

The thing is, that's what I have done and I am not convinced at all of the Law of One. I have read the thing and other similar texts and can see how such things emerge from the mind but that doesn't mean that they have any basis in in reality.


As I've repeatedly stated my distrust of the new age movement I may as well give you some reasons why

In my observations of generic new agers I have seen the following. Honestly I have seen this so many times it's not even funny. These are the general stages:

1. The self congratulatory self appointed title of "seeker", variations include "truth seeker" and "awake" (as opposed to the "sleeping" aka people who do not hold the same beliefs), as the individual progresses on this journey they will eventually label themselves with many identities (you would think the spiritually enlightened would have found themselves) my personal fav was guy who called himself "the lantern bearer" shining light the world lol.

Many people get caught up in the "labeling" phase as a form of self-validation of new beliefs which they feel are on shaky ground. I will sometimes use labels in my private thoughts (such as "adept" or "seeker) and will sometimes use those terms as shorthand when discussing something. Eg, "seeker" is much shorter than explaining "I am a seeker of existential philosophy, spirituality, etc etc" when discussing something. However, I do shy away from using titles in any other context besides shorthand and very rarely even discuss this stuff with random acquaintances or strangers.

Specifically the "awake" label is difficult to get past and is most politically correct term I can think of (again) for the sake of discussion. To be critical of those using that term (including myself), I would say there are many degrees or shades of awakening. To view yourself as 'superior' because you are 'awake', I find to be inappropriate. All the label means (to me at least) is you have the potential to evolve beyond the average person of this 3rd density, or the label could mean you haven't evolved beyond the unconscious archetypal programming you are exhibiting (again, not to be confused to 'superior' or 'better' or 'other than').

2. A certain excitement at having widened one's scope of what could be conceived to be possible sweeps over the individual which often results in them becoming a slave to their own imagination as the fantasies they entertain are suddenly much more plausible given that the individual now believes that anything is possible or everything is true. This allows for rampant escapism which is essentially regression.

I most definitely went through this phase and I have observed many get stuck in this phase for a long time or the remainder of their lifetime. I certainly consider many things (such as 'telepathy') to be much more plausible, but tend to be very conservative and carefully consider what I deem plausible. I also suffered from escapism for a time, although I feel I have moved past that as I had very 'challenging' experiences directly related to that. While I can see how it could be considered 'regression', I ended up bouncing back from that and feel that I ended much further down my own path than from where I started as a result.

3. The individual feels that the thoughts they stumble upon are now cosmic insights that need to be shared with the world as they are now "awake" and have a moral duty to enlighten others.

I also went through this phase and consider it to be extremely common amongst 'seekers'(using that word for shorthand purposes only ). Even though I know that sharing this with everyone is a breach of their free will (if you remember that concept from the material), you want to 'help' people by sharing information that you found so personally helpful. IMO it is the same impulse of door to door religion salesmen 'sharing the good news'. I have gotten to the point where I only share anything related to this with my close friends and family and people in this forum community. Very occasionally I will share my own philosophy with some random person if they bring up something directly related to that first (I can't stress enough how rare this is).

4. The individual slowly becomes more and more dissociated, drunk on the belief that they are witness to a transcendental experience of existence, common experience gets interpreted through magical thinking which fuels the fantasy which fuels the dissociation. The individual withdraws more and more into themselves and their own constructed little world.

I'm not sure I share any common ground to comment on this too much really. From my standpoint, it seems like a combination of projections which I can't disentangle.

5. Everyone else is wrong apart from them and the ideas they concocted without any feedback since others are trapped in the material maze. The dismissal of the scientific method occasionally happens but I've seen just as many people try and twist scientific discovery to suit their transcendent agenda, these people almost never understand science.

I can't say I agree with the notion there is no feedback for those who subscribe to this type of 'theory'. On the contrary, I feel I have considered plenty of normal feedback and also have recognized a feedback system that I had completely ignored as an atheist (the faculty of intuition). I most definitely believe in the scientific method to this day, however it has a very limited scope as not all information can be analysed by it. I often agree with scientific discovery, although I often do not agree with the 'how' and 'why' the conclusions are made due to glaring conflicts with my general worldview. From my standpoint, atheists often twist scientific discovery to agree with their materialistic viewpoint of consciousness somehow being solely generated by a biochemical process. Conversely, I agree religious/spiritual people also often twist scientific discovery with no thought of objectivity.

That's why I consider the notions found in the Ra Material not only to be false but also dangerous since it is conducive to this kind of behaviour...

Anyways, I am still very open to discussion.

If that is the case then why are you here? You claim to be here to openly discuss this but contradict yourself by saying this material is false and dangerous due to promoting 'undesirable behavior'. Actually, that statement makes it seems like you are here to preach your own worldview to the choir of people with 'opposing' worldviews.

Actually, I find this circumstance to be extremely ironically hilarious... From what I've read, you have almost the exact same worldview/way of thinking back when I was an atheist. So it's almost as though I am looking into a mirror at my past self and trying explain to my reflection how and why I have changed.

Anyways, I am still very open to discussion.