06-17-2014, 01:06 PM
Does that make all conscious activity a struggle or a striving? Is "following it" not then something which requires an effort of will which could be considered striving? For example with breathing, I am a very conscious breather and indeed I often put in conscious effort to be consciously involved in my breathing and that is because I am always working to most fully make use of the tool of breath as it is available to me. So am I being controlling because I am not accepting the "default" manner of breathing or am I being accepting of my full conscious capacity and making use of that?
To me, I do not see the difference between "following" and "striving" as those are, to me, essentially both requiring a conscious effort. Are you saying that all effort and striving results in suffering? But wouldn't that just be your rejection of the idea of effort itself?
Are you sure you're not just secretly very lazy? Aha
I guess I just don't understand how you take the idea of "inheritance" and from that suggest that because things have inherent aspects those aspects are no longer relevant to that which they are aspects of.
From the way you express it and perhaps my misinterpretation, it's like saying "Well, I inherently have arms, so I have no arms because they are just an extension of the body, there is only the body, no need for arms."
Also what if you accept the striving? Does that mean the striving is also inherent? If absolutely everything is just inherent, then I suppose we are to be deterministic creatures.
Yet, I cannot help but think that you are striving to nullify striving, which seems kind of self-defeating.
To me, I do not see the difference between "following" and "striving" as those are, to me, essentially both requiring a conscious effort. Are you saying that all effort and striving results in suffering? But wouldn't that just be your rejection of the idea of effort itself?
Are you sure you're not just secretly very lazy? Aha
I guess I just don't understand how you take the idea of "inheritance" and from that suggest that because things have inherent aspects those aspects are no longer relevant to that which they are aspects of.
From the way you express it and perhaps my misinterpretation, it's like saying "Well, I inherently have arms, so I have no arms because they are just an extension of the body, there is only the body, no need for arms."
Also what if you accept the striving? Does that mean the striving is also inherent? If absolutely everything is just inherent, then I suppose we are to be deterministic creatures.
Yet, I cannot help but think that you are striving to nullify striving, which seems kind of self-defeating.