06-16-2014, 07:26 PM
(06-16-2014, 07:13 PM)vervex Wrote:(06-16-2014, 07:05 PM)Tanner Wrote: Perhaps then the question is for what reason does any part of consciousness veil itself from itself?
Although I am far from having all the answers to this question, I tend to believe unconsciousness is the primordial way the universe may use know itself; points of views are created from the illusion of separation. That alone seems like one good reason to veil oneself
Also, in response to your earlier post about souls, do you perceive the mind to also be soul, Tanner? When Ra speaks of the mind/body/spirit complex, do you make a distinction between what is mind and what is spirit?
I cannot provide any proof but I can share a personal experience, perhaps: I have experienced a state and memory in meditation which had me without body nor spirit. I experienced a state of pure thought, pure mind - no vessel of any kind. There was no radiance of light even. Additionally, "space" as we term it felt like a vacuum; it was perceived yet was non-existent.
You are free to interpret this as you wish, however I perceive the mind, body and spirit to be different manifestations/abstractions of the one. How do you see it?
I have had experiences which would fit very similar descriptions I can say. To me, the soul is the trinity of Mind/Body/Spirit Complex, Higher Self and Mind/Body/Spirit Totality and is essentially the Logos which is that focus giving rise to the experience of the Mind/Body/Spirit cycle. The soul is the individuation of the Creator according to free will. It is the circle circumscribed around the point. The point is the creator, the circle is the soul created by the free will of the creator. (The circle is a good symbol for free will as it is equal and all encompassing in all directions and is infinitely scale-able.)
I also see the mind, body and spirit as different manifestations but the soul is not the same as any of these to me.