Third Density Being

[third-density-being]

Hi Simon!

Hello Bring4th_GLB,
Thank You for such comprehensive reply.

You have a probing, penetrating mind complex. You aim your light of inquiry upon principles that rich for further examination. My difficulty will be to restrain myself in reply, and limit the material I quote from your posting.

My mind is very intense part of myself and its role is somewhat dual:
1. He is my Supporter/Ally that did MUCH for me and still allow me to function with acceptable efficiency in this reality.
2. He is a Beast that imprison me long time ago and do what's in his power to pull me back to the cage from which I started to leave.

I am torn apart despite all I;ve learned from Ra materials and despite my own feelings. I'm balancing between so many "things" in my mind that it's hard sometimes to keep this balance. I have days when I still say "no" to my non-rational part of Self. But it's like trying to cover the Sun and says "No, there's no Sun". It works only for short time and than You can see light breaking through the "veil of rational mind". Words cannot express this properly.

To make my answer more "approachable" I'll quote only main points (for most part) of Your reply and I will comment each one.

On the question of knowing whether you are a wanderer...

I cannot imagine "knowing" as "remembering" previous lifes. If I would actually "remember", that this life would be totally different for me. There would be no struggle as presently where my mind is still asking me "are you sure"? He demand from me proofs that my decisions/bahaviour is not harmful for myself. For my mind, if I'm making my decisions based on "non-existing" (for him), I can never make good/proper/efficient choices.

In fact, this inner knowing can create big conflict and suffering for them, because their social environment does not confirm this knowing, and may even deny/reject/ridicule the knowing.

In such a case the wanderer soul may be in conflict with themselves, and may bury or repress the knowing and/or the memories.

That is exactly what I was writing about. Reject/Ridicule are those strongest factors for one strong in mind.
I would like to share my understanding with so many Other-Selves. But I do know that most will not understand and wiil reject information/me before They will be able to see "bigger picture" - the "Whole" that emerges from "The Law of One" Teachings. I've tried this couple times on public forums (and I was scrupulous as always). Some found it fascinating and I gave them links to the source (L/L site). But most didn't have proper categories/concepts/Words to discuss about it. I was seen as "another crazy person" and at some point I resigned from sharing this Wisdom in such open way.

But, without being dogmatic, and without being a fundamentalist, there is probably very little in the world that could convince you against the Law of One material. You know it is *your truth* to your bones.

I agree that if One is gaining his understanding in stages/successively, its ground are very firm and it is beyond of "being convinced otherwise" by outer sources - it is building a foundation within Self. It's almost like constructing Your own way-of-seeing (inner Eyes in some sense) Everything that is deeper than rational (of-this-reality) thought.
But this is very deep level of integration this Winsdom with Self which is not reachable for me at this time/point.

My feeling has always been that if one is asking themselves the question, and if one is attracted to higher-density information like the Law of One material, the probability is high that they are indeed a wanderer. In 36.24, Ra said, "We may add that it is to the middle and first of these groups [of wanderers] that this information will, shall we say, make sense."

Now, this is an example of my struggle with my mind.
On one hand I'm finding information like that "explanatory" to some extent and adding in my seekings.
On the other hand it is claim based on a feelings that may be interpreted in various ways. Sometimes I'm afraid that I may be willing to accept Ra Wisdom because it is so hard for me to find my Self in this existence/reality. But this is my "mind speaking" - those are his ways of "getting me back" - by suggesting that I've accepted this Wisdom because of my dysfunctionality.

On the question of the value of knowing whether you are a wanderer...

Knowing that you are a wanderer simply connects you with the principal desire at the center of your heart. It is a reminder that the purpose of your incarnation – the very reason of your being – is to be a lighthouse in this darkness. That of course does not necessarily translate into the soup kitchen, social work, or performing some great world service on an outer level. Rather it is a service of being, a service of simply radiating who you are, shining the love and the light of the one Creator through your essential vibration. This is perceived by and is helpful to others.

This is beautiful what You've wrote - especially part of a "lighthouse".
So often I "measure" my "Servis to Others" based on what I "know" about how They were aided by me. But in my recent life I'm supporting mainly Strangers (by acts of acceptance and kindness - which are so natural for me, never forced) and as I go further I do not "see" if lifes (or even this day when it happened) of Those whom I've aided is/are better due to my actions. I always hope it is.

Many are able to finally make sense of themselves and the patterns of their life when they come to the understanding that they are a wanderer. This can be of tremendous aid in alleviating doubt, fear, worry, and stress.

It would be If I were able to accept that I might be one. But I continually doubt, question this.
There's always my mind, ready to strike in the peak of my doubt and uplift it as high as he can.

On the question of Carla's relationship to Jesus...

I thought about that and I decided that I will not ask about it Mrs. Carla. You see I do take Ra's Teaching quite literally and I do apply logic to it. My quite unfortuante mind-oriented understanding requires from me that If I'm accepting Ra Wisdom, I accept WHOLE. Also it's important for me to be consequent, and that was exactly why I asked about Mrs. Carla praying to Jesus - in the way I percived it was lack of consequences.

As I was thinking about it I realise one thing. I do not "Pray". Last time I did it when I was a child and since than - especially after my experiences - I cannot kneel and "Pray". Moreover it is my understanding that no prayer is necessary.

All is One. Jesus/RA/my Self/all of You/Creator - we are all One. Therefore what I should do is to KNOW Self/Other-Selves (and by that everything that is). "Prayer" in this understanding is - how to write it - "non-optimal" 'use' of my Self. It is (almost) as if I were praying to myself.
As You can see it is "weghting of the mind" and it is very specific to me. I do not want to impose and force to face this "non-complete understanding" to anyone - especially to Mrs. Carla. "Non-complete" because it is not integrated with other aspects of my Self and is based mainly on my mind.

On the question of balance...

As Ra said, everything that "assaults the senses" is catalyst, but I think Plenum hit the nail on the head in associating resistance with catalyst.

Yes, Bring4th_Plenum answer was/is Amazing for me and shows me balanced, deep view of this matter.

Thank You also for everything You've wrote. It is very current matter for me and I will returning here and read all Your replies many times.

I think that in the path of spiritual evolution, there must-needs be liberation from the mind/body complex, but that liberation happens not by subjugating or dominating the body/mind, or by discarding-rejecting the body/mind, but rather through knowing, and accepting, and balancing, and then, and only then, *transcending* the body and mind.

That is to say, going beyond the body/mind through *disidentification*, realizing that I have a body, but I am not the body, who am I? I have these thoughts, but I am not these thoughts, who am I?

Yes, I cannot on daily basis discard my body. But while I'm meditating I try sometimes to free myself from its material and very narrow boundaries. Regardless If I am successful in that I always come back to this reality in this material vehicle which is my burden.

I liked the way You propose to ask Self about Self. Nevertheless I think it is only a tool of directing Self - this question will be never answered in this existence.

I think it one of the most empowering acts in this world to be okay with being confused, to be comfortable in the mid-air of not knowing.

I can't write that I am "comfortable" with being confused. That is reason why I am seeking. But I do not have problems with admitting that - it is Truth - and to lie to Self is extremely not wise.

There is a desire to be "complete" - to cover all the shades of nuance and meaning. I know that in myself there is forever a battle waging between the need for brevity and simplicity, and the desire to expand to a full, detailed, and complex survey in each situation. I tend to err on the side of the latter, though I'm always reaching toward the former, because most people don't have the time/interest/energy for gargantuan communications.

The source of this desire to be "complete" may also come from the "mind". This is another example of how I cannot accept Self a Wanderer - I have always "another explanation" for any signs I can find in me.

For One who's seeking "gargantuan communications" are what they are looking for (I was). But I do understand what You ment. Many of my posts in many places are not read due to their lengths

Simon, it's been a pleasure reading your words. If I've written anything that doesn't make sense or doesn't vibe with you, throw it in the waste bin. : )

Thanks for sharing your story!! I hope you'll stick with the forums and continue to share your evolving journey.

With love/light,
GLB

Thank You Bring4th_GLB, it was a pleasure to read Your reply.

I'm sorry if my reply is not "complete" but it's quie late and I have to go to sleep. On the other hand I didn't want to leave Your post wihtout a reply, that's why I wrote above. There are topics I will want to touch again, but it has to wait for later time.

Once again Thank You for Your time and Your Words.

Take Care