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    Steppingfeet (Offline)

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    06-03-2014, 11:30 AM (This post was last modified: 06-03-2014, 11:33 AM by Steppingfeet.)
    Hi Simon!

    You have a probing, penetrating mind complex. You aim your light of inquiry upon principles that rich for further examination. My difficulty will be to restrain myself in reply, and limit the material I quote from your posting.


    On the question of knowing whether you are a wanderer...

    Some third-density entities are literally born knowing, to one degree or another, that their soul has an origin elsewhere in the universe. How, precisely, they have this knowing, I am unsure. Perhaps a thinness of the veil in that particular area, perhaps they designed their incarnations to have this knowing, perhaps it is a function of their particular advanced stage of evolution???

    Some people are born with actual memories of a previous life on another planet, as well. Others gain access to memories later in their incarnation through spontaneous emergence or regressive hypnosis.

    What's most amazing to me is that many people, it seems, have either a hunch, or a certainty about who they are *prior* to crossing paths with information (like the Law of One) that speaks of wanderers. So there is no possibility that they were influenced by external information.

    In fact, this inner knowing can create big conflict and suffering for them, because their social environment does not confirm this knowing, and may even deny/reject/ridicule the knowing.

    In such a case the wanderer soul may be in conflict with themselves, and may bury or repress the knowing and/or the memories.

    But whether born with the knowing or whether it emerges later in the incarnation, the depth and certainty/surety for this category of wanderer is similar to the depth of certainty/surety that you have regarding the rightness of the Law of One material for you.

    Being a seeker, and an investigator of truth, I would imagine that you are open to new evidence, new information, new understanding, and as such will revise your belief accordingly as you analyze and weigh the new data. But, without being dogmatic, and without being a fundamentalist, there is probably very little in the world that could convince you against the Law of One material. You know it is *your truth* to your bones.

    Likewise for some wanderers. They know who they are, to a certain extent. They know they are not native.

    However, this is not the case for most. In fact, according to Ra in the early 1980's, most wanderers are asleep, completely unaware of their off-worldly origins.

    And for those in between, "Am I a wanderer?" is an open question. I know many seekers who entertain the question, but don't "know" one way or the other. Many there are who presume that they are *likely* a wanderer, but, again, don't "know" for sure.

    My feeling has always been that if one is asking themselves the question, and if one is attracted to higher-density information like the Law of One material, the probability is high that they are indeed a wanderer. In 36.24, Ra said, "We may add that it is to the middle and first of these groups [of wanderers] that this information will, shall we say, make sense."


    On the question of the value of knowing whether you are a wanderer...

    In my opinion, knowing that you are a wanderer does not change too much, actually – you are still in a human body living a human life on a human world with human lessons and a human personality – but it is helpful in these two basic regards:

    1. It underscores the reason for your incarnation here on planet Earth. The wanderer is literally defined by his or her desire to be of service. In feeling the suffering and the sorrow upon this planet and in hearing the cries for help sounding from every corner of Earth, the wanderer decided to make the sacrifice and take on a body in this illusion, forgetting who they are and risking becoming karmically involved.

    Knowing that you are a wanderer simply connects you with the principal desire at the center of your heart. It is a reminder that the purpose of your incarnation – the very reason of your being – is to be a lighthouse in this darkness. That of course does not necessarily translate into the soup kitchen, social work, or performing some great world service on an outer level. Rather it is a service of being, a service of simply radiating who you are, shining the love and the light of the one Creator through your essential vibration. This is perceived by and is helpful to others.

    It is a matter of waking up and being who you are. As you wrote, "Sometimes I do feel that and I realised lately that it may be important for me to "wake up", as If possibility of reaching my main goal here is comming."

    2. It helps one to bring a certain order and perspective to the life that may have been previously unavailable. Like you said, ""The Law of One" enables me to reevaluate everything. It "explaind to me" why I am as I am without suggesting that I am mental ill/dysfunctional."

    Many are able to finally make sense of themselves and the patterns of their life when they come to the understanding that they are a wanderer. This can be of tremendous aid in alleviating doubt, fear, worry, and stress.


    On the question of Carla's relationship to Jesus...

    She has spoken to this many times, and in wording much better than I can convey. My own understanding is that Carla is not praying to or with the Jesus entity that most Christian folks are relating to. Carla, rather, is praying to the Christ within Jesus, the vibration/consciousness/understanding that he represented and became emblematic for.

    Further, Carla had a deep, personal, intimate experience with Jesus on multiple occasions as a child. She describes being able to sort of leave her body and go to a special/magical place where she met Jesus. Looking into his eyes, she knew what unconditional love was.

    If I remember correctly, this experience ended for her as her parents or others in her life told young Carla it wasn't real.


    On the question of balance...

    As Ra said, everything that "assaults the senses" is catalyst, but I think Plenum hit the nail on the head in associating resistance with catalyst.

    I think in terms of locating our imbalances, blockages, overactivations, underactivations, etc., resistance is a key clue. As is emotional charge.

    Like Ankh said, Ra said a lot about balance! I think two principles helpful in the consideration of balance are:

    ONE:
    42.4 Questioner: Would a perfectly balanced entity feel an emotional response when being attacked by the other-self?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The response is love.

    TWO:
    5.2 Ra: The disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and then balancing each and every positive and negative charge with its equal. The mind contains all things. Therefore, you must discover this completeness within yourself.


    Elsewhere you describe how others in your life have successfully been able to shut feelings/emotions off in order to exhibit some form of self-mastery and even manipulation of others. But by contrast, you have gone the other route of actually experiencing/feeling/processing these emotions.

    I think this is the way of the positive polarity. In 95.24, Ra says:

    "There is no outward shelter in your illusion from the gusts, flurries, and blizzards of quick and cruel catalyst."

    We cannot "defend" ourselves, precisely, from our selves. We cannot insulate ourselves from the inner experience of catalyst. However cruel it may seem to be, the positive entity must move *through* catalyst, and embrace catalyst.

    46.9 Ra: "Control is the key to negatively polarized use of catalyst. Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst."


    (05-30-2014, 06:08 PM)third-density-being Wrote: During my searches befor I met Ra I've found claiming that to trully know the-Self we must recognize and at least for short time (i.e. during meditations) discard all needs/wants of Physical Vehicle (with all it's deceptions) to be able to "Look into True Self". That is for time being only way I know of how to be able to look beyod this physical manifestation of "Self" and to meet "Self" (and in some sense Creator Him Self).

    I think that in the path of spiritual evolution, there must-needs be liberation from the mind/body complex, but that liberation happens not by subjugating or dominating the body/mind, or by discarding-rejecting the body/mind, but rather through knowing, and accepting, and balancing, and then, and only then, *transcending* the body and mind.

    That is to say, going beyond the body/mind through *disidentification*, realizing that I have a body, but I am not the body, who am I? I have these thoughts, but I am not these thoughts, who am I?


    (05-30-2014, 06:08 PM)third-density-being Wrote: I am very, very confused and at early stages of my Seakings. I started to implement my understanding (mind) into my life (body/spirit).

    I think there is deep wisdom firstly in seeing that you are confused (because virtually any third-density entity would be lying to themselves to say that they do not have confusion), and secondly in accepting confusion. I think it one of the most empowering acts in this world to be okay with being confused, to be comfortable in the mid-air of not knowing.

    If you dive into the conscious channeling of L/L Research, you'll see the theme repeated over and over that third-density is *designed* to be confusing, and that the wanderer, among other reasons, came here to be confused, and that there is enormous value in the confusion. Value because we can choose not to turn to the material world and its internal logic for validation/justification/support, but instead turn to faith to trust and to know the Creator.


    (05-30-2014, 06:08 PM)third-density-being Wrote: Ehh, again I'm offering You oversized presentation of my thoughts. I'm sorry, it is so hard for me to express my Self in only few words. It is important for me to be precise.

    Lol! This is not uncommon for the wanderer/spiritual seeker. There is a desire to be "complete" - to cover all the shades of nuance and meaning. I know that in myself there is forever a battle waging between the need for brevity and simplicity, and the desire to expand to a full, detailed, and complex survey in each situation. I tend to err on the side of the latter, though I'm always reaching toward the former, because most people don't have the time/interest/energy for gargantuan communications. Smile

    Simon, it's been a pleasure reading your words. If I've written anything that doesn't make sense or doesn't vibe with you, throw it in the waste bin. : )

    Thanks for sharing your story!! I hope you'll stick with the forums and continue to share your evolving journey.

    With love/light,
    GLB

    Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi
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    Third Density Being - by third-density-being - 05-29-2014, 08:14 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by reeay - 05-30-2014, 12:17 AM
    RE: Third Density Being - by Ankh - 05-30-2014, 06:21 AM
    RE: Third Density Being - by Astrodiana - 05-30-2014, 03:53 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by third-density-being - 05-30-2014, 07:11 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by AnthroHeart - 05-30-2014, 04:42 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by third-density-being - 05-30-2014, 06:08 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by Astrodiana - 05-31-2014, 09:40 AM
    RE: Third Density Being - by third-density-being - 05-31-2014, 04:54 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by reeay - 05-31-2014, 05:30 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by third-density-being - 05-31-2014, 07:32 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by Plenum - 05-31-2014, 08:20 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by third-density-being - 05-31-2014, 09:03 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by michael430 - 06-02-2014, 10:25 AM
    RE: Third Density Being - by third-density-being - 06-03-2014, 07:25 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by Steppingfeet - 06-03-2014, 11:30 AM
    RE: Third Density Being - by third-density-being - 06-03-2014, 10:22 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by Steppingfeet - 06-05-2014, 10:44 AM
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    RE: Third Density Being - by Steppingfeet - 06-17-2014, 01:23 PM
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    RE: Third Density Being - by AnthroHeart - 06-03-2014, 11:44 AM
    RE: Third Density Being - by Adonai One - 06-18-2014, 05:59 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by michael430 - 06-19-2014, 01:18 PM
    RE: Third Density Being - by kycahi - 06-23-2014, 02:26 PM
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