Quote:you are limited in your approach. ordering does not need to be fractal or in any other way. order, structuredness is not necessarily a physical structuring, a construct. it doesnt need to be of any shape.
I'm narrowing my approach to the topic in order to connect with mutual understanding. Of course the visualization doesn't need to be fractal. It can appear in an infinity of ways. But if you do visualize the structure, no matter how it appears, you are realizing the chaotic beauty that arises from logical structures.
Quote:it would totally depend on what the particular local sun of a particular universe chose. other universes may not even appear in the manner we know ours.
While I'm confused as to where this statement came from in regards to the discussion, I completely agree.
Quote:time/space appears chaotic, effervescent, fluid, and random. it seems impossible to fathom. from this, you conclude the 'unfathomableness' of existence, rather mistakenly overemphasizing the subconscious, time/space part of existence.
I don't know about others, but for myself, I conclude the "unfathomableness of existence" from the realization I have when I ponder the depth, detail, and congruency of this life experience. There is no way that any human level intelligence can grasp the ins and outs of how we interact with eachother, how things come to be, and the way the planet builds upon itself. It's all a grand flowing system. It's not the point to try to know or conquer it in this lifetime. Then, I compare the entire earth experience with the scope of the universe. Earth and all human knowledge, even all the knowledge of Ra and others disappears like a wisp. Existence is unfathomable.
It isn't the chaos of time/space that I take to be unfathomable. In fact, I, as a consciousness, am becoming more comfortable and familiar with the time/space environment as it becomes more available to me. I'm not overemphasizing the scale or importance of time/space or the subconscious mind. I am however, becoming more aware of myself as a being or consciousness that floats balanced inbetween space and time. I see the value of both as equal.