Meditation

[Dani]

Is it me or does nearly every thread on here these days drift away from the original post into a passive argument between a few users about different ways to word more or less the same message. I am not sure if its just the way i am reading it but it really seems to be that way at the moment. I feel a lot of one up man ship is going on as well.

I would say if you want to meditate don't ask people here on this forum but goto a meditation retreat/find a well rounded teacher.

Hi Matt1, I didn't want to derail this poor thread any further, but since I wanted to answer to you, I posted it here.

There are many cases where "one-man-up-ship" takes place. When that happens, that is between those who participated in the first place and theirs to deal with alone unless people are harmed.
As far as asking about the desire to meditate, I've done so myself, for the most part. Ankh, do you meditate?
Matt1: I'm sorry that this thread is so long.

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here's some quotes about suffering to meditate on:

"The reward of suffering is experience." ~Aeschylus

"Wisdom comes alone through suffering." ~Aeschylus

"Suffering has been stronger than all other teaching, and has taught me to understand what your heart used to be. I have been bent and broken, but - I hope - into a better shape." ~Charles Dickens

"The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known suffering...Beautiful people do not just happen." ~Elisabeth Kübler-Ross

"Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars." ~Kahlil Gibran

"The truth is, everyone is going to hurt you. You just got to find the ones worth suffering for." ~Bob Marley

"Man cannot remake himself without suffering for he is both the marble and the sculptor." ~Alexis Carrel

"Life is full of misery, loneliness, and suffering - and it's all over much too soon." ~Woody Allen

"Suffering is the sole origin of consciousness." ~Fyodor Dostoevsk

"The seed of suffering in you may be strong, but don't wait until you have no more suffering before allowing yourself to be happy." ~Thich Nhat Hanh

"Suffering ceases to be suffering at the moment it finds a meaning." ~Viktor E. Frankl

"Joy lies in the fight, in the attempt, in the suffering involved, not in the victory itself." ~Mahatma Gandhi

"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experiences of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired and success achieved." ~Helen Keller

"One shall have to undergo suffering to reach truth." ~Rig Veda

"Suffering! We owe to it all that is good in us, all that gives value to life; we owe to it pity, we owe to it courage, we owe to it all the virtues." ~Anatole France

Thanks, Isis.

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I don't think that I'm suffering too much, but it's still hard to be here.

I liked this one:

"Life is full of misery, loneliness, and suffering - and it's all over much too soon." ~Woody Allen

I've had my share of loneliness.

Those who create loneliness for the sake of destruction do so only to cause pain. Their problems are their problems, even when those problems seem to sew themselves into others' lives. Once they decide not to listen kindly, they are deciding to continue living without others to help them. When closed-minded people choose to bring seemingly large problems into your life, find others who will do the opposite. Build walls not so much for protection as much as productive creation. <3

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There's a useful compilation of exercises from the Seth works here for meditative workings:

http://www.gestaltreality.com/downloads/...oberts.pdf

Thank you, Horseus. <3

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During meditation on Sunday morning, my mind lead me to a spool of thread that wound itself into a tree. I rested inside a raindrop at the end of a leaf that clung to a branch. This florescent raindrop held swirling colors that spun around me as the liquid walls vibrated slowly around my body, becoming severed by my wings then blending together again.
I guess I was dreaming?...