(06-04-2010, 12:45 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: No, it is not. If mind contains wisdom. And the mind is the result of physical processes then wisdom is a physical process itself. I can take a scalpel through your brain and eliminate your mind. But your wisdom will be unaffected.
Your mistake is lumping together the various faculties of information processing. It's very anthropomorphic to suggest that the only thing able to be intelligent or wise is a thing that has a brain like a human being.
you are confusing the workings of the physical tool, brain, and its processes, which are used to manifest mind, with mind itself.
with the same logic, you can easily mistake body for spirit.
Ra's 4th book deals in archetypical mind, and the workings of mind and subconscious. as you can see, it is not, the brain or, societal mind.
Quote:Generations upon generations of adepts in various mystical traditions seriously disagree with you here.
generations upon generations of adepts have worked on these, so that thanks to them, we are able to actually talk and think on these today.
it is appalling that you can make grand statements on history, without giving any historical references, and even, forgetting the very material that this particular subforum is about, by the way.
generations upon generations of adepts have worked on the mysteries of existence by using their mind, the tool of manifesting wisdom, and 3 different groups, including Ra, helped them in that process by setting up pyramids and initiating them, and presenting them with work material, including the egyptian tarot, which constitutes the basis for the Ra material 4. did you actually read the 4th book i wonder.
Quote:This is the simple straight forward mistake anyone on the street would make on this subject. But again the mystery also known of that which cannot be spoken of. Cannot be spoken of not because we don't know the words. But because it cannot be translated into words. It lies beyond the human experience. Humans can experience it, but not as bio mechanical machines.
so then you shouldnt talk about it ?
this is your logic. you cannot start understanding anything, before you start contemplating and working on understanding it.
Quote:Yet we are one with everything at this very moment. It's the same thing as the mystery, your mind may not be able to appreciate it, but your mind is irrelevant. It's reality.
you are not one with everything at this very moment. if you are, please travel by thought to the planet pluton, or, go stay on the sun for a few days, and manifest small suns.
for, these are some of the feats which those who has garnered the MENTAL discipline to see all the existence as one being, can do, as Ra says. yet, you cannot.
you are, purporting that you are one with everything. however what you are mistaking is, you are a PART of everything, and not one with everything. it becomes something outside you, just in a saying manner 'oh yes but we are all with one', without any actual reality. it remains something in philosophy.
had you been one with everything, you would not be here, in this octave. you would be in 8th dimension, in a timeless state, in between the octaves.