05-01-2014, 04:33 AM
(04-30-2014, 06:34 PM)vervex Wrote: Some thoughts; If all is one, then we are already fully realized. We are merely experiencing the construct of this reality we call a human life. We can be in harmony with this construct and immerse ourselves in it, accepting it fully, or we can seek through will to broaden our perception of the reality we experience and push what we perceive to be boundaries or limitations (be they of our vessel, emotions or intellect). There is no right or wrong approach, however I am tempted to believe that using the word "attainment" connotes a recognition of the concept of limits which means they cannot be fully accepted at the current time. I believe the one truly at peace will not see limits but rather their own beingness in all (including said limits), and they will embody it so far they will harmoniously navigate the cosmos without much use of the will or resistance.
That being said, being willful is a strong trait in humanity and I believe we are here to experience this resistance and this duality. And so I embrace my own will, all while attempting to slowly let go of the concept of attainment by becoming more accepting of my reality. And even that is some act of will, of course
I can see and understand all those points, but I have one question, which is: Why? If we, as fully realized beings, are capable of confusing ourselves in to believing we are not fully realized, why would we do this?
I have an answer but I am curious as to yours.
(04-30-2014, 06:38 PM)Adonai One Wrote: If I may only add that to see Attainment is to see that not all has been "attained." It is well to navigate the creation through Will but this scepter embodies an aspect of the illusion that the self is not seen in what is inherently the self. To use Will with a great attachment is to find a desire to deny what is One. Moderation is what enables the Will to used by the positive polarity in that it sees the creation in inherent Harmony but does not desire to cause disharmony by not allowing its Will to be utilized.
The creation seeks Will in its Harmony; however, the Harmony is not Will on its own but a reflection of what is simply without Will and eternal.
I am confused by the concept of "no Will" as I suppose that could be something applied to Intelligent Infinity and then the first distortion being an awareness of 'finity' and the freedom of will of awareness to explore that experience in an infinite, eternal present however, to me, if Will itself is defined by the distortion of free will then it is not that the One is without will but rather that because its will is freely One it has no resistance to anything nor is anything in resistance to it except for itself.
That being said, to me, the "polarities" of Will are not "with will" and "without will" because the will of the One is the Logos and is unlimited, but rather I see it that there is either "free will" or unlimited will, and "bound will" or limited will that has been limited by restrictive patterns due to cognitive interference. To me, the positive adept is attempting to free the will using the focusing of the attention upon harmonization of opposites which otherwise, when asymmetrical, results in distortions leading away from freedom of will of awareness and cognitive dissonance.
To me, at the level of the One, the subject of "Will" is neither applicable or non-applicable so it can't be said to be "with" or "without" will because in fact it both is and is not will itself while still being with or without will but really it has nothing to do with will at all except for everything. A strange paradox, but enjoyable to think about. Makes mah brain tickle hehe
I guess it is all moot once you contact Intelligent Infinity because there is no need nor lack of need for will at that level aha