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    04-07-2014, 04:30 AM
    I'm glad someone (Tanner) finally shared their view on what I have long perceived on these forums.

    From my perspective, what is going on is beyond friendly advice, and an attempt to control or cynicize another's path is committed 'for their own good' or perhaps out of insecurity. I understand it is often a good service to offer advice or constructive criticism occasionally instead of just offering encouragement constantly, but I also think it is inappropriate to offer nothing but criticism for everything (at the opposite end of the spectrum of offering no criticism).

    Arguably, everyone on these forums has been guilty of this behavior at some point, including myself. However, a certain few individuals do this much more frequently than the average forum member. That is where the paradox comes in that was pointed out by Tanner and Gary: if you speak up and ask something be done about it, isn't that committing the same act of control?

    That paradox is what has kept me (mostly) silent about the topic for years. I have also noticed it has kept me from speaking my mind in general as much as I'd like to for fear of overly critical words.

    I understand and 100% support being a mirror to those who need it. But I think what I am talking about goes well beyond being a mirror and strays into criticism with the goal of control, whether conscious or subconscious. That is where the Ra quote(s) Tanner mentioned come in:

    http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?v=o&s=17#30 Ra 17.30' Wrote:Speaking to the intention of your question, the best way for each seeker in third density to be of service to others is unique to that mind/body/spirit complex. This means that the mind/body/spirit complex must then seek within itself the intelligence of its own discernment as to the way it may best serve other-selves. This will be different for each. There is no best. There is no generalization. Nothing is known.

    What I take from this is that there is no 'correct', objective answer for anyone to adhere to on their life path. In fact, it doesn't seem like it would do any good to either party to blindly give or follow advice with no discernment involved since nothing is known. Therefore, I only find it appropriate to offer one's perspective to the seeker looking for answers, not say what someone should or should not be doing or thinking.

    http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=18#6 Ra 18.6 Wrote:Thus, what would be an improper distortion with one entity is proper with another. We can suggest an attempt to become aware of the other-self as self and thus do that action which is needed by other-self, understanding from the other-self’s intelligence and awareness. In many cases this does not involve the breaking of the distortion of free will into a distortion or fragmentation called infringement. However, it is a delicate matter to be of service, and compassion, sensitivity, and an ability to empathize are helpful in avoiding the distortions of man-made intelligence and awareness.

    When I perceive this behavior of being overly critical or being critical too often, I typically see a lack of compassion, sensitivity, and attempt to put one's self in the other's shoes.

    So what is to be done; what can be done; what do I want to be done? Nothing, other than imploring the readers of highly critical (often well written) posts to consider if what is being said is truly helpful to the person being given 'advice', or if someone is merely imposing their 'superior' viewpoint on another?
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    Never be afraid to ask for help - by Adonai One - 04-01-2014, 12:51 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by AnthroHeart - 04-01-2014, 03:01 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Unbound - 04-01-2014, 03:31 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Melissa - 04-01-2014, 07:04 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Fang - 04-01-2014, 10:11 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by reeay - 04-01-2014, 11:06 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by zenmaster - 04-01-2014, 11:36 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by BrownEye - 04-01-2014, 11:50 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Melissa - 04-02-2014, 02:39 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Fang - 04-02-2014, 02:52 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by BrownEye - 04-02-2014, 04:04 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Melissa - 04-02-2014, 04:48 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Melissa - 04-02-2014, 03:02 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by reeay - 04-02-2014, 05:19 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Melissa - 04-02-2014, 07:18 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by isis - 04-03-2014, 03:50 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by ScottK - 04-02-2014, 08:11 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Fang - 04-02-2014, 08:29 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by ScottK - 04-02-2014, 09:34 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by reeay - 04-02-2014, 09:53 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by ScottK - 04-02-2014, 10:18 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Melissa - 04-02-2014, 11:55 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Fang - 04-02-2014, 10:20 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by reeay - 04-02-2014, 10:25 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Spaced - 04-02-2014, 11:11 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by AnthroHeart - 04-04-2014, 12:05 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by reeay - 04-02-2014, 12:41 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by zenmaster - 04-02-2014, 12:59 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Melissa - 04-02-2014, 01:49 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Raz - 04-02-2014, 01:57 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by isis - 04-02-2014, 01:59 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by ScottK - 04-02-2014, 04:00 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by isis - 04-02-2014, 07:01 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Raz - 04-02-2014, 09:01 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Melissa - 04-03-2014, 03:05 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Unbound - 04-02-2014, 05:15 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Steppingfeet - 04-02-2014, 05:34 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by xise - 04-02-2014, 05:31 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by manniz - 04-02-2014, 05:46 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by manniz - 04-02-2014, 05:52 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Unbound - 04-02-2014, 05:49 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Steppingfeet - 04-02-2014, 06:05 PM
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    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by reeay - 04-02-2014, 08:10 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Fastidious Emanations - 04-02-2014, 09:05 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Raz - 04-02-2014, 10:19 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by GentleReckoning - 04-03-2014, 05:53 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Raz - 04-03-2014, 07:38 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by isis - 04-03-2014, 11:05 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Fang - 04-03-2014, 11:38 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by isis - 04-03-2014, 11:55 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Spaced - 04-03-2014, 12:57 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by ScottK - 04-03-2014, 02:07 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by manniz - 04-04-2014, 03:18 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Melissa - 04-04-2014, 02:45 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Parsons - 04-07-2014, 04:30 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by manniz - 04-07-2014, 02:25 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Steppingfeet - 04-07-2014, 06:04 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Unbound - 04-07-2014, 04:45 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Melissa - 04-07-2014, 04:49 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by AnthroHeart - 04-07-2014, 09:49 AM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by Unbound - 04-07-2014, 02:45 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by manniz - 04-07-2014, 03:45 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by xise - 04-07-2014, 03:59 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by manniz - 04-07-2014, 04:38 PM
    RE: Never be afraid to ask for help - by AnthroHeart - 04-07-2014, 04:30 PM

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