Never be afraid to ask for help

[Melissa]

Well at least if there is an attempt to become conscious, there will be some progress eventually. Meanwhile we all must suffer for it. The consequences for self and society are simply greater when that suffering is consciously sought and maintained, because it will be at the expense of all.

Zen, who are you talking to? And what do you consider an attempt to become conscious? Could you explain what you're saying in a different way?