12-11-2013, 08:24 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-11-2013, 08:52 PM by GentleReckoning.)
(12-11-2013, 03:27 AM)Cynthia Wrote: I don't know. Happens to me quite frequently that people tell me stuff and then exclaim "I don't know why I told you that", or "I've never told anyone that", or "I never talk this much."
I assume it's because I'm a naturally calm, steady, and quiet person. Never thought of myself as a portable mushroom trip. But I do think of listening as one of my highest and best StO.
Maybe I didn't understand your point?
That when two people connect, that they their moods will track. Now, this may happen 'energetically', or it may just be body language, tone or something else.
So, if person A is thinking thoughts of seperation, person B will 'track' with them and resonate at thoughts of similar distortion. You are simply actively listening which is where you experience with them what they are talking about. If you stopped talking, and their thoughts went to a happier place, you might find that your train of thought suddenly moves to a happier place as well.
It gets wild when both people are actively searching for the things that they are afraid of sharing with the other person. Then you can RAPIDLY clear through many thoughts/beliefs/distortions that you 'think' separate you from others, but in reality everybody has similar beliefs.
This moves into the Buddhist idea of attachment as we are naturally attached to people that we like and will often not say something we feel out of a fear of how they will react. This is simply the effect of not being able to feel unconditional love at all times. We get snippets of this with other selves and will suppress our expression out of fear that the other self will abandon us and leave us miserable and by ourselves.
In reality, what we are doing is halting the growth of the relationship. At the point where you are afraid to express yourself is the depth at which the relationship will simply coast along. If you constantly are honest with the other person and are simply explaining your feelings and not judging them or attacking them you can continue growing a deeper and deeper relationship. AKA saying 'When you do this I feel this way' instead of 'this thing that you do is mean or dumb'. Notice that one way of expressing that is judgement, and the other is expression.
(12-11-2013, 02:40 PM)Melissa Wrote: I was thinking about your first statement GR. See, I have suppressed just about every emotion for many years without creating any bodily distortions (as far as I know). What do you mean by saying an 'overload' of catalyst?
There is always expression. It is likely that you haven't held onto them long enough to allow them to filter through to your body. More likely is simply that there are people in your life that you can be totally honest with as this is all that you really need. If you have one person that you feel that you can shine the core of who you are then you'll be fine.
Otherwise artistic expression is one of the greatest therapies as well. Basically think of all that you do through which you express anything.
The basic rule of reality is that everyone is an open book. The veil simply obfuscates people's difficulties to allow them to experience deeper levels of separation as they won't immediately realize their core issues. This way the core issue sits and simply creates more and more difficulties in the person's life. Eventually they simply wonder why x or y is so much different than it was in the past.
(12-11-2013, 02:44 PM)xise Wrote: The veiled subconscious mind is a deep reservoir of suppressed/repressed catalyst. I agree with GR that the body distortions reflect unresolved catalyst, but there is some mechanism at play that I haven't figured out that determines what unresolved catalyst manifests from the subconscious first (either at the mental or body level).
The more base negative emotions are those that I feel make it through to the body.
Shame, fear, guilt, are some. Then you have the broader ones like anger or anxiety. Some of these will pull in other similar emotions and be 'energized' by them. These are so difficult to nail down because they can usually not be subjectively discovered except through deep thought/meditation. Objectively it may be obvious, but again unless we are willing to connect to another person and share at that level of emotion the other person won't have the space 'energetically' to accept that their dominant negative emotions are affecting their body.
I have the most experience with anxiety as one of my family members has symptoms of parkinsons and another one is beginning to develop symptoms. It is my feeling that both of these people (from talking to them a lot) exist at the level of small talk. They don't delve below the surface of life and simply exist at the level of reality where you are either happy or sad.