11-07-2013, 04:35 AM
(11-06-2013, 10:45 AM)primordial abyss Wrote: Ankh funny you posted that I was reading it yesterday..
Quote:The activation, while in yellow ray, of violet-ray intelligent infinity is a passport to the next octave of experience.This would result in cessation of the yellow-ray vehicle and/or all the vehicles that spirit compromises up through 6/7D right?
I'm not sure, but currently I'm inclined to think that it indeed can mean a cessation of true color yellow ray vehicle (and experiences in third density), and the entity may choose to leave to the next, 4th, density (the positively polarized choose to stay though, and share/serve instead). But it doesn't mean that one can jump all the way to the next Octave. The reason to why Ra may have chosen to use words "the next octave of experience" then is because it is perhaps an "octave" in the sense of "each of the true-color densities has the seven energy centers".
It could also mean, as you have said, that one could, while in true color yellow ray, graduate all the way to the next octave, the real one so to speak. As I said, I'm not sure. But if one thinks about it - really?? Can an entity skip 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th densities alltogether, and just go to the next octave, after only experiencing 1, 2 and 3rd densities? Well, who knows...
(11-06-2013, 07:17 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Is this the quote you guys are referring to when you say the higher self is a thought form?
Quote:37.6 Questioner: In that case, we’ll go ahead with the questions we have here continuing the last session. You said that each third-density entity has an higher self in the sixth density which is moving to the mind/body/spirit complex of the entity as needed. Does this higher self also evolve in growth through the densities beginning with the first density, and does each higher self have a corresponding higher self advanced in densities beyond it?
Ra: I am Ra. To simplify this concept is our intent. The higher self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness. The mid-seventh density’s last action before turning towards the allness of the Creator and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource to the sixth-density self, moving as you measure time in the stream of time.
This self, the mind/body/spirit complex of late sixth density, has then the honor/duty of using both the experiences of its total living bank or memory of experienced thoughts and actions, and using the resource of the mind/body/spirit complex totality left behind as a type of infinitely complex thought-form.
In this way you may see your self, your higher self or Oversoul, and your mind/body/spirit complex totality as three points in a circle. The only distinction is that of your time/space continuum. All are the same being.
Not really. I thought that I read somewhere that Ra clearly said that the Higher Self is a 6D thought-form, but I guess that I was wrong as I sure can't read it anywhere right now.
(11-06-2013, 09:43 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Setting aside the magical personality for a moment, if I may, I'd like to focus on the higher self a bit. I had always understood the higher self to be the late-sixth-density entity itself, not a thought form. I see why you read 37.6 the way you do, but there are other quotes that can, arguably, be read to indicate the reverse -- quotes that talk about the higher self and the entity being two selves that are in fact the same self, about the higher self programming lessons (can a thought form program lessons?), about it calling on the mind/body/spirit totality (can a thought form call on something?) .
Maybe it doesn't really matter -- I'm not sure.
You're right. I thought that I read somewhere that Ra said that the Higher Self was a thought-form as I said, but since I can't find that quote now, and on contrary, I found quotes where Ra said that it is a manifestation, I think that it is not a thought-form at all, but a manifested being of mid/late sixth density.
So, do you think that while in true color yellow ray, one can become (for a limited moment) a sixth density being (if one learns to invoke its Higher Self properly and efficaciously)? Really? A third density entity can become a sixth density entity while still in 3D? Because Ra seems to say that...?
What did you mean by "quotes that talk about the higher self and the entity being two selves that are in fact the same self"? What quotes did you mean?