(08-18-2013, 05:07 PM)Ashim Wrote:No problem. Despite your frustration, the "pre-rational" approach really can only ever merely suggest or point toward vague infinities. If you are satisfied with resonating with that which is fully ambiguous and may exist in potential experience, rather than that which exists in actual experience, there really can be no beneficial discussion.(08-18-2013, 04:46 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(08-18-2013, 04:30 PM)Ashim Wrote:That is orthogonal to the question, but you coyly chose it because it is a concept of unity and in continuing the appeal to infinities any concept of unity can be a finger pointer to infinity. Used in such a way, it's really an abuse of the intuition. As Ra said, the function of intuition is to inform intelligence. And the unbridled predominance of intuition will tend to keep an entity from the greater polarizations due to the vagaries of intuitive perception.(08-18-2013, 04:26 PM)zenmaster Wrote:So why did we decide to call this a Universe?(08-18-2013, 04:22 PM)Ashim Wrote: There is only one of us here.As in identification of the mechanism or action of principle behind the claim not an appeal to infinities (which is a waste of experience).
Dunno zen. In fact it's a toss up at the moment between an evening of discussion with you, or a long, drawn out argument with my wife.
My wife is pretty good looking so that tips the odds in her favour.
The chances of getting a little kiss and cuddle are probably equally slim with both of you, so I'll head off into bed.
Thanks for your time my friend.
(08-18-2013, 05:02 PM)Sagittarius Wrote:Yes, the veil makes us take stock of or acknowledge and accept our actual dispositions through conscious confrontation between our determined experience and our unconscious (potential) minds. Given that, third density can be considered the only environment where things can be considered the most "real" in this octave. That is, the provided limitations of focus in relationship between mind, body and spirit genuinely relies on our self-determination and effort which (must) co/creates something at the very core of our identity.(08-18-2013, 04:49 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(08-18-2013, 04:47 PM)Sagittarius Wrote:Yes but were you going to answer my question first?(08-18-2013, 03:07 PM)zenmaster Wrote: How do you balance future experience? Actually how do you even balance experience? With balancing, you are creating a new way to accept experience.
The "veil" is due to our physical disposition of limited access to our time/space interiority. It is a point-like, pin-hole, short-sighted "peek" lacking the broad overview of a map. It provides only an asymptotic approach to our inner terrain.
Time as "changes" is time as the quality of duration. Duration is just one psychological aspect of time. There are other purely psychological expressions as well. There are physical aspects too, just as there are psychological qualities of the physical aspects.
Time and space are the same thing but made distinct from their mutual identity through our acceptance of experience.
So I guess my question is I get that the veil increases friction which makes for a more valuable experience in regards to working on the personality, you say it is to create a new way of accepting experience would you be able to elaborate on that? Are there any mechanics mirrored throughout matter that replicate this ? I hear crystallization from Ra but I can't seam to make sense of the term in it's context yet.
Balancing future experience perhaps should be changed to balancing the thought of future experience. The future I guess is not a constant with what you do now changing forever continuously the future.
My idea of balancing is seeing two conflicting views or ideas or events and transcending both the effect of looking at it negatively and positively, balancing the 2 sides to a truer representation of self.
The future really only exist as an idea, like an apprehension, or a suggestion or a guess. Guessing (and planning) can be useful, but it is important to realize that identifying with an idea such as "the future" binds us to it in a manner which also may not serve us well. You can sort of see that pathology with the emotions of "hope" and "fear" which have a purpose in distracting from learning about the nature of things.
By "new way of accepting experience", I meant that experience is interpreted differently as distortion is lessened. As refinements are made, the objects of experience even take on completely different roles. I would say that evolution is constantly exemplifying the evolutionary process, to the limits of their expressions, starting with the basic photon. It would seem that the crystal is the pinnacle of the 1D form due to its a certain amount of complexity and supporting, interrelated structure - pure and efficiently constructed. Apparently, it also has significant "presence" in time/space as well so it is utilizing more of the density from which it exists than other 1D materials.