08-14-2013, 03:59 AM
(08-13-2013, 11:18 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:(08-12-2013, 07:09 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: Also, frankly I don't feel anymore resolved about the situation, and it is increasingly uncomfortable for me to post simply because I largely feel I no longer have anything worthwhile to say and that makes me sad. Maybe it's better for me to continue my detachment from the forum. Either way, these are just my own thoughts and feelings and no one else's, blessings to you all, I wish you well.
I am sure this will be taken as "angst", but apparently it's okay to feel emotions, go figure. Peace.
Not to convince you to stay or leave, sometimes a respite from the forums can be refreshing. But I would like to reach out to understand a bit better about what the situation is that you refer to, and what could be done to help you feel that it is resolved? Also, if the label of angst is ill-fitting, I apologize...it's how I related your expressions to my own experiences on the forums which I thought were similar.
You know, I have always seen myself as being more than just a human, and yet my humanness is always with me, it is strange to experience.
I am having difficulty fully feeling my words. I at times think of countless things to say with nothing needing to be said it seems, maybe my own perception.
There is only the sorrow of the spirit to be felt and resolved and seen as the other end of eternal bliss. I am sad because it is not acceptable, or highly questioned, in much of society that I have experienced, to make claims about the self that in any way suggest that that individual has experienced what is beyond the bounds of their current physical body and the endless rounds of inquisition seem to just lead to a stagnancy of the abilities, which are natural to all.
I admit, maybe I do feel angst and I realized I felt cut by that word because of things in my past which coloured my perception of that word. I learned a new thing today, I am glad.
(08-14-2013, 03:33 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(08-13-2013, 04:40 PM)Tanner Wrote:No - some are of course. The obvious typical examples of fanaticism and zealotry, which are actually protective coping mechanisms of identification (with an idea). The quality and degree of any distraction really depends on interpretation and integration of experience, which is provided by circumstances of relative balance and maturity. Constant appeal to infinities due to strong identification with a transcendent principle are used as an unconscious mechanism to deflect balancing responsibility from undeveloped, fragile ego. But the idea of "contact" in the first place was to simply force acknowledgement that one has a spiritual nature (yay) rather than to distract.(08-13-2013, 08:57 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(08-12-2013, 06:39 PM)Tanner Wrote:Impact such as that which fuels fanaticism and zealotry? Oh wait "transcendent knowingness". People are always held responsible for their "revelations", regardless of how tightly they may or may not identify with them.Quote:How one uses this realization is much more important in terms of participating here than the actual realization itself.I agree with this on one hand, but on the other I think this is somewhat inconsiderate of the actual vividness and impact this kind of realization can have upon a person.
What are you implying, that all revelatory experience leads to inflated ego?
So you do not believe there has ever been any physical contact between humans and higher beings?