08-08-2013, 08:13 AM
Hi Ankh!,
yes, I guess at some stage, we are going to be discussing 'ideal case scenarios', rather than any examples of people actually living a life of 'total clarity'. The reason being that such an ideal case scenario (or one already very close to unity) would have already moved beyond 6th density, and would not be incarnating as a Wanderer. So the very fact of choosing an incarnation (whether as a native 3d'er, or a higher density Wanderer) is to experience the limitations and opportunities of this planet, which involve (necessarily) the clearing of distortions, the gaining of greater balance, or as Ra says, 'the recapitulation of a third density learning'). So anyone who incarnates is not in perfect harmony before the incarnation and so chooses this earthly experience as a way of gaining greater harmony. And so such a life is programmed with catalyst and learning potentials; ie they are not going to be living a 'clear life', or at least not from the start.
to speak to the situation that you described (a clear/cystallised indigo in combination with imbalances in lower centres), yes, I think I agree with you and what Ra said. That a clear indigo cannot correct imbalances in other energy centres.
but as it relates to the physical and the body complex, I think that the case of the negatives is quite interesting. They work intensely with the lower three to gain access to the indigo, and it seems they are able to enjoy very good health and vitality. They would seem to be extremely unbalanced (no activation of green or blue), and yet they can make it 'work'.
of course, pre-incarnative factors are always a choice, and they serve to highlight the imbalances during incarnation, so whatever the coded lesson, it can be brought to the surface (as can be seen in many of the transcripts that Dolores Cannon shares; when the pre-incarnative condition or karma is exposed, then an indigo ray type healing occurs).
these things (health issues) are always a choice; whether on the current level of incarnation (choices made in this lifetime), or pre-incarnative choices to illustrate a very strong point (usually to correct a karmic action from a previous lifetime).
in either case, understanding of self will almost in all cases offer some relief and alleviation from the condition.
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also, that passage that I quoted wasn't the full answer that Ra gave. I think posting the rest of it should clarify things a little more:
but as you say, in the last sentence Ra confirms that alll ill-health is due to a blockage in one or more of the energy centres, and so a clear indigo is no guarantee of blooming health![Smile Smile](https://www.bring4th.org/forums/images/smilies/smile2.png)
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yes, I guess at some stage, we are going to be discussing 'ideal case scenarios', rather than any examples of people actually living a life of 'total clarity'. The reason being that such an ideal case scenario (or one already very close to unity) would have already moved beyond 6th density, and would not be incarnating as a Wanderer. So the very fact of choosing an incarnation (whether as a native 3d'er, or a higher density Wanderer) is to experience the limitations and opportunities of this planet, which involve (necessarily) the clearing of distortions, the gaining of greater balance, or as Ra says, 'the recapitulation of a third density learning'). So anyone who incarnates is not in perfect harmony before the incarnation and so chooses this earthly experience as a way of gaining greater harmony. And so such a life is programmed with catalyst and learning potentials; ie they are not going to be living a 'clear life', or at least not from the start.
to speak to the situation that you described (a clear/cystallised indigo in combination with imbalances in lower centres), yes, I think I agree with you and what Ra said. That a clear indigo cannot correct imbalances in other energy centres.
but as it relates to the physical and the body complex, I think that the case of the negatives is quite interesting. They work intensely with the lower three to gain access to the indigo, and it seems they are able to enjoy very good health and vitality. They would seem to be extremely unbalanced (no activation of green or blue), and yet they can make it 'work'.
of course, pre-incarnative factors are always a choice, and they serve to highlight the imbalances during incarnation, so whatever the coded lesson, it can be brought to the surface (as can be seen in many of the transcripts that Dolores Cannon shares; when the pre-incarnative condition or karma is exposed, then an indigo ray type healing occurs).
these things (health issues) are always a choice; whether on the current level of incarnation (choices made in this lifetime), or pre-incarnative choices to illustrate a very strong point (usually to correct a karmic action from a previous lifetime).
in either case, understanding of self will almost in all cases offer some relief and alleviation from the condition.
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also, that passage that I quoted wasn't the full answer that Ra gave. I think posting the rest of it should clarify things a little more:
Quote:12.31 This instrument also experiences some distortion of the green-ray energy center which you may call the heart center. It is overly open due to an intensive desire distortion on the part of this mind/body/spirit complex towards service to others, or as you may call it, universal love. This entity, therefore, spends itself without regard to its reserves of mind/body/spirit complex distortion in regard to what you call strength or energy.
This distortion is primarily due to the blockage of the indigo ray.
As we have said before, the misapprehension distortion of the instrument responsible for this blockage is the basic orientation towards a belief in unworthiness. The unworthiness distortion blocks the free flow of intelligent energy.
The seventh or violet ray is unimpaired, this being not only an energy receptor but a sum total of the vibratory level of the individual. The other energy centers are also quite clear.
The solution to healing in this case is action that puts into practice the peaceful understanding in humility distortion that the entity is one with the Creator, therefore perfected and not separate.
In each case of what you would call ill health one or more of these energy centers is blocked. The intelligence of the mind/body/spirit complex needs then to be alerted either by the self as healer or by the catalyst of another healer, as we have said before.
but as you say, in the last sentence Ra confirms that alll ill-health is due to a blockage in one or more of the energy centres, and so a clear indigo is no guarantee of blooming health
![Smile Smile](https://www.bring4th.org/forums/images/smilies/smile2.png)
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