All truths are true?

[Ali Quadir]

The cow's reality may not include the idea of a spherical Earth, or anything past the horizon for that matter and yet although she is unaware of anything else, else still exists in a factual sense.

Does it really make sense to think about what exists outside your framework if you know in advance that your framework makes it what it is?

I know this is an insane concept. But think about it. If your mind dictates what you see, how can you even ask yourself what the reality is like without the mind?

A table is a massive wooden object. A table is mostly a vacuum filled with moving points of energy. A table is a wave form. A table is an intellectual idea, a table is a place to exist at. But what ever a table is... you need someone to see it as such before it is guaranteed to be anything at all.

Much in the same way as our physical space-time universe geometry might be flat, curved in to a sphere, torus or some other complex shape and we cannot perceive it. So the cow's beliefs and knowledge support that the universe is the field she is grazing in, although her beliefs and knowledge is limited.

I have started to look at this differently. Her perspective is limited. But that does not mean she sees more or less. She just sees differently.

You know how saints and mystics explain to us how time and space are products of our minds? So how can something be a sphere, if we create it's sphereness during our act of "existing in relation to it"?

I have little doubt my friend. I've been purposely steering the conversation away from multiple dimensions simply because for the most part I have heard the theory of all truths being true from people in the context of our shared reality (or uni-verse). On topics from moon bases to how the coming havest will go down. Now that I'm seeing that it really can't work with one reality (or so I speculate at this point) I am open to looking at how it fits in with many. But I think you've already done a good job of doing that.

It can't work with one reality. It isn't working with one reality! If you have a string of rope that is woven into a larger cable. Then by following the string you follow the cable, the string always exists inside the large cable twisting and turning as the cable does. Until you come to the end of the cable. The cable doesn't actually break. It just stops being one cable its parts separate ways.

The string then goes it's own way. It can be woven back into another large cable. What will happen is the earths soul cable will be split into a few different cables each of those will be put into new worlds appropriate for the particular soul threads inside the cable.

I now am speaking in a phone companies terminology... I'm sorry I have nothing better. It's also metaphorically, there is nothing that looks like a cable. It just represents the behavior well.

I actually don't have much information on how multiple verses work although I have heard some theories. Do you have any good links you could point me to?

It's not actually hard.... The biggest issue is that you'll really have to dump the old paradigm. The two are not compatible. And I notice that people keep mixing up the paradigms when trying to think about this.

(hopefully audio or video links so I can listen while I'm at work- not as much time to actually read things).

I'm sorry, I know nothing that really explains this clearly. The best you can do is read certain passages in the hitchikers guide. But in reality they're only hinting at this and it's then not isolated from the rest of the chaos that douglas adams puts into his books.

Can you imagine two playing fields in two separate universes? Sharing one soccer ball? Can you imagine that it would be possible for four teams to play with the ball at the same time without noticing something is wrong? All kicking and movement of the ball is synchronized and exactly the same in both universes. All teams feel they're in control. Yet in one universe the end score is different than in the other! Because the score is dictated by the spectators and the teams. And only "almost completely" by the movement of the ball.

Note that there is only one ball, it is shared by universes and bridges these universes together.

It seems impossible, the odds against this working out in a classical understanding are astronomical.. But odds are relative to our world. Not relative to the larger psychoverse. This is the essence of synchronicity. It drives creation.

To create, we synchronize our perceptions. When enough people see the same thing we call it real and factual.

Who else has been thinking about this since Feb? It wouldn't surprise me, I think we're collectively thinking more on common lines at this forum as time goes on. Social Memory Complex pre-school if you will.

I think so... And not just at this forum. It was some contacts on another forum, some people I met the other day in real life. I just thought it to be odd for various people to come up with such an abstract topic.

I think the idea is pushing unto our world it's slipping into the minds of people. A kind of preschool as you say Our minds are not isolated spaces. We perceive the thoughts around us, and the thoughts important to our world. And those with the strongest affinity will pick them up first and guide others by writing books and movies about them. Not always as a conscious choice. Often as an inspiration representing the global dream.