All truths are true?

[Ali Quadir]

Hey Ali: Essentially we're talking about the parallel dimensions / realities or multi-verse idea, right?

Yes.

So the idea is, that infinity exists. Because it exists everything conceivable also exists.

Precisely.

Nothing doesn't exist in this framework...

"Existence" is something that is relative to something else. An object taken on it's own always exists. Whether it exists relative to you is a variable. If you hold a book. And the main character has a talking horse, then the question if the horse exists is actually if the horse exists relative to your world. Which it doesn't. But if you ask the question for the main character it does exist. Better stated, it does actually exist for you, as a fictional entity in a book. But this does not contradict add to or remove from the existence of the horse relative to the main character.

So in a way everything can be true at the same time. I suppose this is a solution but we must admit that this is quite a different idea than the one in my first post about everything being true, as it is implied to be in one universe since multi-universes are not mentioned.

You're right I have difficulty switching to the one universe metaphor.

If you would both humor me for a little while longer- I think there is more fat here we can chew. Setting aside the multi-verse for a minute, how can we further explain this concept with regards to a shared reality? For example, we have a great thread called 'Hellfire' in which many thoughtful posts explain how Hell is really just a controlling device made by humans (or perhaps in part by Orion entities). Yet for millions of people, hell is 100% real. How can believers in this concept and non-believers both be right? Or can we conclude that as far as consensus, shared reality is concerned, all truths are not true?

I would suggest that maybe the shared reality as an external "object" is not how I would look at it. I would consider shared reality that part of our perspective that is synchronized to the point where it makes sense to us to communicate to each other how to deal with it. There is no central object, but our synchronisation and creation seems as if there is precisely such an object.

No doubt you know the story about the blind folded philosophers and the elephant. Just like to each of them the elephant is a different thing. To each of us shared reality or our perspective on it is a different thing. We call it shared because it is conceptually the same. Our logic can argue about it and when we communicate the logic it fits from multiple perspectives. This is what it means, nothing more.

Or, just one more example, there were points in time where there were no humans alive who were aware that the Earth is actually a sphere. I'm talking back before it was ever even conceived of. But, the earth was a sphere back then I think we can agree. Quite confusing!

How would you know the earth was a sphere or even that she is? From our perspective it could be a sphere. Meaning that if we take our perspective millions of years into the past it would to our perspective still be a sphere. But our perspective did not exist then. So how can you be certain it was actually a sphere?

It's a sphere to you now. But do you think it's a sphere to a cow now? To a cow it would be a huge curvy plane and if the cow walks long enough in one direction he ends up at the same spot on the plane. Two realities, both true. Both not the same, and both not contradictory. A rock would perceive the earth as a field, time flows differently for it. It shares our reality and does not contradict.

Maybe the multi-verse is the only place where this 'all truths are true' concept makes any sense. But if that's true, why even bother using the concept as long as you exist in one universe at a time?

I honestly don't think you exist in one universe at a time. You think so, your mind tells you this is so. But you're a multidimensional entity in truth.

A question that comes to my mind is: Do you feel the multiple universes in a multiverse are like single universes separated from each other? Because the thing about parallel universes is well, that they're not exactly parallel. Parallel implies geometrical orientation. They're also not strictly universes in that they're not separated (not uni) and not all(versal). Each universe is another way of viewing the same singularity. A perspective. A change in one universe will change every other universe.

Incidentally, since February it seems everyone started asking this question.