03-15-2010, 11:10 AM
Hello friends, I'm glad this thread has gotten some responses, it only took 14 months after I initially created it... HAHA! 
I agree with you Turtle, it can be extremely difficult if one does it at all. In my case we're talking about roughly 30 years of that sort of programming, I doubt I'll ever be fully rid of it. Over the course of the last year I've grown in this area much to my relief. I took a long hard look at how mainstream science treats new or controversial ideas. It is extremely biased. To a degree, it is also irrational in a way that they (scientists) are unaware of. I realized this while listening to the testimony of Jill Bolte Taylor, a neuroscientist who had a remarkable experience in which she suffered a stroke while remaining conscious. Her entire left brain was de-activated, leaving only her right brain to work with. She couldn't read, talk or anything like that, but she suddenly gained a tremendous feeling of connection to everything. She no longer understood where her body ended and her environment began. It was profound for her and after her recovery she never felt the same way about life again. This story caused me to realize in a flash that the major mistake close-minded scientists, atheists and skeptics made continuously is that they discredit their emotions, intuition, feelings and everything else we would call the product of the heart, or right-brain. This is because they do not want to be 'irrational'. They fear above all else becoming un-objective. And the bold scientists who DO follow their hearts are pushed the side in our current scientific world. But, if it is possible to have those feelings because those feelings are a part of reality, how can you call yourself objective when examining reality, if you always look at just one side of it? There's nothing rational about that at all. That's what's missing from the atheist's tool kit, and why they come to the conclusions they do come to. There are images of the universe that, to me, are so profoundly beautiful and awe inspiring... that to someone else is completely random and meaningless. In itself, that stance is a larger leap of faith than ours is here. But that's my opinion of course.
In short, what I'm trying to say is that we are a product of this universe. Thusly anything we humans do is an organic process of that universe, just as anything a star does is an organic process. Everything from freeway on-ramps, to great works of art. It's all 100% naturally derived from the universe. Since humans DO have feelings that god exists, that there is a larger picture, and that they have had those feelings for thousands of years is not insignificant. You can't just ignore all of that because you cannot classify it with numbers, language or the scientific method. It is, therefore, wise to follow your heart, especially in an area such as spirituality where the intellect cannot (by design I would say) help you at all. For some this means religion, for me, it means The Law of One.
Having said all this, I do feel that open minded science and spirituality should have no conflict once our understanding of each has developed significantly. Quantum Mechanics is by far the most interesting field of study in this regard. To me, the laws of QM are the same about the same as magic. The Law of One is also, I feel, probably the most advanced form of spirituality on Earth, and in many areas it crosses over in to scientific languages (due in part to Don's history in science no doubt). Ultimately I'm sure our mainstream science will use equal parts intellect and heart in it's learnings. That we haven't done so yet may be due to the fact that we're still technically at the end of third density with a veil firmly in place, albeit thinning now and again.
Here is a link to that talk I referenced: http://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_tayl...sight.html
What a rant! Sorry for the length of this- but as you may have discerned, this was no minor point in my spiritual awakening and journey thus far. Much love, L.
I agree with you Turtle, it can be extremely difficult if one does it at all. In my case we're talking about roughly 30 years of that sort of programming, I doubt I'll ever be fully rid of it. Over the course of the last year I've grown in this area much to my relief. I took a long hard look at how mainstream science treats new or controversial ideas. It is extremely biased. To a degree, it is also irrational in a way that they (scientists) are unaware of. I realized this while listening to the testimony of Jill Bolte Taylor, a neuroscientist who had a remarkable experience in which she suffered a stroke while remaining conscious. Her entire left brain was de-activated, leaving only her right brain to work with. She couldn't read, talk or anything like that, but she suddenly gained a tremendous feeling of connection to everything. She no longer understood where her body ended and her environment began. It was profound for her and after her recovery she never felt the same way about life again. This story caused me to realize in a flash that the major mistake close-minded scientists, atheists and skeptics made continuously is that they discredit their emotions, intuition, feelings and everything else we would call the product of the heart, or right-brain. This is because they do not want to be 'irrational'. They fear above all else becoming un-objective. And the bold scientists who DO follow their hearts are pushed the side in our current scientific world. But, if it is possible to have those feelings because those feelings are a part of reality, how can you call yourself objective when examining reality, if you always look at just one side of it? There's nothing rational about that at all. That's what's missing from the atheist's tool kit, and why they come to the conclusions they do come to. There are images of the universe that, to me, are so profoundly beautiful and awe inspiring... that to someone else is completely random and meaningless. In itself, that stance is a larger leap of faith than ours is here. But that's my opinion of course.
In short, what I'm trying to say is that we are a product of this universe. Thusly anything we humans do is an organic process of that universe, just as anything a star does is an organic process. Everything from freeway on-ramps, to great works of art. It's all 100% naturally derived from the universe. Since humans DO have feelings that god exists, that there is a larger picture, and that they have had those feelings for thousands of years is not insignificant. You can't just ignore all of that because you cannot classify it with numbers, language or the scientific method. It is, therefore, wise to follow your heart, especially in an area such as spirituality where the intellect cannot (by design I would say) help you at all. For some this means religion, for me, it means The Law of One.
Having said all this, I do feel that open minded science and spirituality should have no conflict once our understanding of each has developed significantly. Quantum Mechanics is by far the most interesting field of study in this regard. To me, the laws of QM are the same about the same as magic. The Law of One is also, I feel, probably the most advanced form of spirituality on Earth, and in many areas it crosses over in to scientific languages (due in part to Don's history in science no doubt). Ultimately I'm sure our mainstream science will use equal parts intellect and heart in it's learnings. That we haven't done so yet may be due to the fact that we're still technically at the end of third density with a veil firmly in place, albeit thinning now and again.
Here is a link to that talk I referenced: http://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_tayl...sight.html
What a rant! Sorry for the length of this- but as you may have discerned, this was no minor point in my spiritual awakening and journey thus far. Much love, L.
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