The Dream Thread

[Ankh]

Prior to the veil dreams were used beyond this.

Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, let us establish that both before and after the veil the same conditions existed in time/space; that is, the veiling process is a space/time phenomenon.

Secondly, the character of experience was altered drastically by the veiling process. In some cases such as the dreaming and the contact with the higher self, the experience was quantitatively different due to the fact that the veiling is a primary cause of the value of dreams and is also the single door against which the higher self must stand awaiting entry. Before veiling, dreams were not for the purpose of using the so-called unconscious to further utilize catalyst but were used to learn/teach from teach/learners within the inner planes as well as those of outer origin of higher density. As you deal with each subject of which you spoke you may observe, during the veiling process, not a quantitative change in the experience but a qualitative one.

I would love to hear someone explain what this "prior to the veil" paragraph means in a fairly simple way - it seems very interesting but I do not really understand it. Thanks for any help.

My understanding of this quote is that prior to the veil, the dreams were used to meet the teachers instead of working with the catalysts and have contact with Higher Self as it is done now, after the veiling process.

Prior to the veil dreams were used beyond this.

Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, let us establish that both before and after the veil the same conditions existed in time/space; that is, the veiling process is a space/time phenomenon.

Secondly, the character of experience was altered drastically by the veiling process. In some cases such as the dreaming and the contact with the higher self, the experience was quantitatively different due to the fact that the veiling is a primary cause of the value of dreams and is also the single door against which the higher self must stand awaiting entry. Before veiling, dreams were not for the purpose of using the so-called unconscious to further utilize catalyst but were used to learn/teach from teach/learners within the inner planes as well as those of outer origin of higher density. As you deal with each subject of which you spoke you may observe, during the veiling process, not a quantitative change in the experience but a qualitative one.

I would love to hear someone explain what this "prior to the veil" paragraph means in a fairly simple way - it seems very interesting but I do not really understand it. Thanks for any help.

My Earth history is very shabby but apparently there was a time when the third-density peoples of Earth were able to understand the universe as it stood. Knowledge of the creator, incarnation and the love that existed in all things was inherent thus suffering was quite impossible.

This was eventually veiled since people began to desire an existence that offered more catalyst and an ability to build oneself spiritually through more varied experience, rather than living in an undistorted utopia. Heaven can be boring.

Anybody is free to correct me or explain this more clearly.

I don't think that the veiling spoked of is about this Earth as in this planet - Gaia. Third density mind/body/spirit complexes upon this Earth have always been veiled, because this is the design and free will of this Sun under whose care we are. This means also that the Venusians were veiled in their own third density about 2,6 billions of years ago too.

What I think Ra meant in regards to "prior to the veiling process" are those third density experiences which happened in the beginning, near central suns of this galaxy. Once the free will got extended to the choice of service to others and service to self, and the veil was implemented, experiences without the veil ended for good.